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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Do any of you people ever bother to even glance at previous notes, like Jungle Book , where a user is making significant changes tyo (uncredited) which has been previously DOCUMENTED by another user...not me. Wow, stunning. "- Crew and cast (including rolenames for a change) from onscreen; Ken Anderson's birth year propagating from Winnie the Pooh and the old Jungle Book disc, among others. Uncredited cast taken from Grant's Disney encyclopaedia" | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: Do any of you people ever bother to even glance at previous notes My guess is that at least 99.5% of the contributors never ever looks at previous notes when submitting something, no. I can see how that must be frustrating at times, but I do really believe that that's how it is, and I don't expect change anytime soon. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | I think you are right, Tim, but it's a shame when it involves some of the self-righteous and insulting users that we have here, users who SHOULD know better. The Contributor makes reference to Grant's as well, and provides a copy of A Single Page, that is inconclusive at best. He does offer some sources as well, but I don't think Wiki is anywhere close to as credible as Grant's. In short the Contributor leaves me personally confused on his data, we have two users claiming the same source, and different data. Personally I will go with the older data, unless the contributor cancome up with something better than he is providing. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,650 |
| Posted: | | | | Not as much as a shame as someone starting a thread with no other reason than to pan another user rather than just sending a polite PM. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Sam:
I panned no one, who did i NAME. Stay out of it and your attacking and insulting attitude. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 906 |
| Posted: | | | | Can you please explain what the problem with that contribution is? Sorry, but I don't understand what the problem is and I've looked at the old notes. The contributor even bothered to make a scan from the book. | | | The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity | | | Last edited: by reybr |
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Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,650 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: Sam:
I panned no one, who did i NAME. Stay out of it and your attacking and insulting attitude. You make me laugh every day. I don't believe I said you did mention a name? Please show me where (or go with your usual "I will not REPEAT myself. The answer is ALREADY above. OH MY."). I said you started this thread to pan another user which you have done. If you want an attacking and insulting attitude you must look no further than your own posts. I don't see why you can't either: a) politely PM the involved user explaining why you have voted no b) start a thread in a reasonable (I know Skip... one step at a time) manner to discuss the matter in hand instead of going on a rant about people not checking notes. |
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Registered: May 8, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,945 |
| Posted: | | | | I think the problem is that previous documented uncredited data is now being removed. As I did not look into that specific contribution I have no opinion on it. To answer your question Skip, I myself look into previous documentation if I want to remove uncredit data, but I do not look into previous documentation when i just add a few things that were missing cheers Donnie | | | www.tvmaze.com |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | What I find troubling reybr. I two users claiming the same source and DIFFERENT data, including the removal of a role. Something is wrong somewhere. I don't accept Wiki as a reliable source for data, for ther samer reasons as another datadbase. I am concerned about the idea of conflicting data from the same source of information...WHY? I know Grant's very well, it is sold on Disney property because of it's quality, but I don't understand how the same produces different data,it leaves me to question the entire Contribution. I don't understand how some people are willing to accept such an issue, reybr. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DarklyNoon: Quote: I think the problem is that previous documented uncredited data is now being removed. As I did not look into that specific contribution I have no opinion on it.
To answer your question Skip, I myself look into previous documentation if I want to remove uncredit data, but I do not look into previous documentation when i just add a few things that were missing
cheers Donnie The things that are missing like Thurl Ravenscroft is not a problem (that is something that any Disneyphile SHOULD know), but changing or removing data immediately cause me a problem. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 906 |
| Posted: | | | | And I don't understand problem since the last contributor made a scan from Grant's book. How can you then say that the first contribution that used Grant's book is more accurate when the second actually includes a scan. That is what I don't understand.
To me this, looks perfectly acceptable. | | | The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | He scanned ONE single page, if you are familiar with it, reybr. Grant's is a big book with a lot of information on any given title in the Disney catalog...one page is not terribly helpful, particularly when we are claiming different data from the same source. Someone, it seems to me is wrong, but who. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 906 |
| Posted: | | | | Still more helpful than no scan at all, and all the changes match what the book says.
The additional voices could have been set to Monkeys though (At least according to Graham Webb) | | | The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity | | | Last edited: by reybr |
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | It is disappointing that this was brought to the forums.
A "no" vote with an explanation should suffice. If the contributor does not check the voting, a polite pm outlining my "no" vote would be helpful.
It might be the contributor does not agree with your assessment. In this case the screeners will make the final decision.
It is likely the contributor does not read the forums and posting a complaint here does not solve the problem. |
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Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,650 |
| Posted: | | | | I think contributors not reading the notes is just as bad as voters not paying attention to the contribution. 024543-219699 Transporter 2 DVD: Forum Moderator: Removed. Calling out users in the forums for their votes is no longer tolerated.BUT I know we all make mistakes. I've made plenty and have been PM'ed and informed in a decent manner by other users whom have been nothing but helpful. If we started posting screenshots or making threads everytime someone made a mistake, we'd never have anything else to read. Mistakes happen. (I know the pic is underhand as hell but I'm just trying to show you how it feels in the vain hope something gets home). Oh, and this thread could've avoided so much crap by simply starting a thread about the actual issue and that is determining which notes are correct. You have changed from your initial post of "Do people even check previous notes" to "I don't know which is right". (My apologies to all other users for being so underhand) | | | Last edited: by Forum Moderator |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Sam: The difference between me and most users, is that when such an error is found I will review it and likely make the necessary change. Would you care to make an updated screen cap or shall I, since your agenda was oh so obvious as it always is. Jerk | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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