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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | I just ran across a title that has
"Sound Operator" in the usual spot where I see "Sound Mixer" for the Production Sound Mixer credit.
Can not use it, Correct? |
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  | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Actually the next credit below it is "Boom Operator".
This movie does not have a Production Sound Mixer listed, or any of Profilers "Equivalents" But this credit sits where I would expect to see "Sound Mixer"
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's not listed, Charlie. Custom role at this time | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
This movie does not have a Production Sound Mixer listed, or any of Profilers "Equivalents" But this credit sits where I would expect to see "Sound Mixer" I'd go with "Production Sound Mixer" indeed. As for the inevitable different viewpoints, I'd like to refer to my post in the previous similar thread ( here). |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | If I saw that credit personally, I'd probably select "Sound", but I'd be more than happy to accept Corne's job description and put it under "Production Sound Mixer" instead. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Is it a direct translation of a Profiler role? The answer to that question will tell you whether or not it can be included. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Okay, Martian I have to ask, what does direct translation mean to you. I can see arguments on both sides of this, some saying yes it is a direct translation and some saying no it's not. So, we have a term in the Rules but no way to apply it, nothing that spells out what a direct translation is or is not. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Which is why I did not provide an answer. I, too, can see arguments on both sides so I leave it up to the contributor to decide. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well. It is my local. I did not contribute that credit.
Would have opened up a lot of yes and no comments in voting, and I decided not to deal with that end of it.
I know for a fact that this is the Production sound mixer of this movie, and threw this out here as another example of the limitations of what the arguments of crew table provides, instead of allowing us to put in the actual job (no matter what it is called)
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
I know for a fact that this is the Production sound mixer of this movie That, to me, is all that matters. I want to track the film's production sound mixer, no matter what label he's credited with. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quoting CharlieM:
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I know for a fact that this is the Production sound mixer of this movie
That, to me, is all that matters. I want to track the film's production sound mixer, no matter what label he's credited with. I would support crew roles by function instead of labels as well. The same way as we have to do it for all non-English credits on a daily basis. And we do this with much less problems as the exactly as listed with no variation allowed way for US-English credits. |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | If this change was submitted with notes, I would have no problem voting yes. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Another I came across...
Sound Recordist - in this film is the Production Sound Mixer. Crew table forces it into (directly by name) into the generic sound |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | If there is any way of documenting the actual job done, I would do so and put the credit in the correct category. Call it a "direct translation".  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
Another I came across...
Sound Recordist - in this film is the Production Sound Mixer. Crew table forces it into (directly by name) into the generic sound Sound recordist can be a UK direct translation of the US production sound mixer. Therefore production sound mixer is allowed in this case. |
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