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I think this is a short question.

I have a DVD that has on the cover (=title) "Best of Janine Habeck". This is what is also written on the disc and in the menu.
There are no end credits and her name is (what I've seen) not shown in the movie.
So does she get a normal credit or does she get uncredited.


Second question: There are some interviews shown, sometimes the name of the interview partner is shown under the face (typical interview style). Normal credit or uncredited?
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I think this is a short question.

I have a DVD that has on the cover (=title) "Best of Janine Habeck". This is what is also written on the disc and in the menu.
There are no end credits and her name is (what I've seen) not shown in the movie.
So does she get a normal credit or does she get uncredited.

If her name does not appear, in prited form, anywhere in the credits, it is uncredited.

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Second question: There are some interviews shown, sometimes the name of the interview partner is shown under the face (typical interview style). Normal credit or uncredited?

I believe this would fall under the "If a film has no end credits, but does have actors credited elsewhere, enter the actors from those credits" rule, so credited.
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I think this is a short question.

I have a DVD that has on the cover (=title) "Best of Janine Habeck". This is what is also written on the disc and in the menu.
There are no end credits and her name is (what I've seen) not shown in the movie.
So does she get a normal credit or does she get uncredited.

If her name does not appear, in prited form, anywhere in the credits, it is uncredited.

Since it is a performance, titled with the name of the performer, I would consider that her credit ("credited elsewhere").  I just submitted a music DVD with a similar situation, explaining it in my notes and it was accepted without a whimper.

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Second question: There are some interviews shown, sometimes the name of the interview partner is shown under the face (typical interview style). Normal credit or uncredited?

I believe this would fall under the "If a film has no end credits, but does have actors credited elsewhere, enter the actors from those credits" rule, so credited.

Agree.
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I think this is a short question.

I have a DVD that has on the cover (=title) "Best of Janine Habeck". This is what is also written on the disc and in the menu.
There are no end credits and her name is (what I've seen) not shown in the movie.
So does she get a normal credit or does she get uncredited.

If her name does not appear, in prited form, anywhere in the credits, it is uncredited.

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Second question: There are some interviews shown, sometimes the name of the interview partner is shown under the face (typical interview style). Normal credit or uncredited?

I believe this would fall under the "If a film has no end credits, but does have actors credited elsewhere, enter the actors from those credits" rule, so credited.



I think this is a huge stretch.

"If the film has no end credits, but [the film] does have actors credited elsewhere....."

This sentence has an "implied" subject (as bolded above) which is carried from the prepositional phrase that precedes it.

In this case the film has no credits at all, of any kind.

The "Title" is just that.  It is not an acting credit!

Uncredited is appropriate, IMHO.
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I think this is a huge stretch.

"If the film has no end credits, but [the film] does have actors credited elsewhere....."

This sentence has an "implied" subject (as bolded above) which is carried from the prepositional phrase that precedes it.

In this case the film has no credits at all, of any kind.

The "Title" is just that.  It is not an acting credit!

Uncredited is appropriate, IMHO.

I understand where you're coming from, but the title is part of the film which, in this case, tells us something about the film and its content:  its star.
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If "Janine Habeck" is only to be find in the film title then I would add her as uncredited. The film title isn't part of the credits, but is considered to be part of the billing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_credits).
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There are similar cases, where in old TV shows, the stars don't appear on the credits roll and sometimes are not introduced audibly, but the name is in the title.  Clearly, the title of the show is meant to tell us who the stars are.
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If "Janine Habeck" is only to be find in the film title then I would add her as uncredited. The film title isn't part of the credits, but is considered to be part of the billing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_credits).

But for Profiler purposes, we accept other forms of credits, such as names appearing onscreen at the point a participant appears.
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At this time I would have to say uncredited.
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If "Janine Habeck" is only to be find in the film title then I would add her as uncredited. The film title isn't part of the credits, but is considered to be part of the billing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_credits).

But for Profiler purposes, we accept other forms of credits, such as names appearing onscreen at the point a participant appears.


That is an acting credit.  A "Title" is not.

She should absolutely get credited in DVDP; it should just be marked "uncredited".
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If "Janine Habeck" is only to be find in the film title then I would add her as uncredited. The film title isn't part of the credits, but is considered to be part of the billing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_credits).

But for Profiler purposes, we accept other forms of credits, such as names appearing onscreen at the point a participant appears.


You already say it: other forms of credits. The title isn't a credit.
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If "Janine Habeck" is only to be find in the film title then I would add her as uncredited. The film title isn't part of the credits, but is considered to be part of the billing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_credits).

But for Profiler purposes, we accept other forms of credits, such as names appearing onscreen at the point a participant appears.


That is an acting credit.  A "Title" is not.

She should absolutely get credited in DVDP; it should just be marked "uncredited".


Exactly 
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I respectfully disagree.  It "quacks like a duck," as they say.  We are clearly meant to know by the inclusion of the name in the title who the performer is.  (But I am OK with holding to an unpopular opinion. )
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I respectfully disagree.  It "quacks like a duck," as they say.  We are clearly meant to know by the inclusion of the name in the title who the performer is.  (But I am OK with holding to an unpopular opinion. )


No disagreement.  We are meant to know who the performer is.  But it is still a title, and not an acting credit.
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I respectfully disagree.  It "quacks like a duck," as they say.  We are clearly meant to know by the inclusion of the name in the title who the performer is.  (But I am OK with holding to an unpopular opinion. )


The rules don't support the title as credits. The definition of film credits doesn't support the title as a credit. A third argument then: The title is added in DVD Profiler as well. So like she's is meant to be named in the title only, so can it be done in DVD profiler as well. The filmmakers didn't credit her for some reason we don't know and for DVD profiler purposes the reason is irrelevant. We just track data as they appear on screen and enter that data by the rules and not by how it may or may not be meant.
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