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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Now unfortunately, I am sure this is going to start an argument, but I want to get opinions. Please give me your reasoning for your opinion What is the Proper Title and edition for the profile of the following images? Front Cover  Back Cover (sorry about the size, wanted to be able to see text)  DVD Title Board (opening for the movie on DVD)  DVD Title Menu  PLEASE - No insults, no zingers, please keep on the topic of just this question Debate is good... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | In my opinion:
Title: King Arthur: Directors Cut
Edition: Extended Unrated Version
The rules says to use the title from the front cover. The part about the credit block in the rules is only for possessives so the back cover is irrelevant. My interpretation of the cover is that King Arthur is the "main" title with "Director's cut" a "sub" title.
Extended Unrated Version is the edition because of it's placement on the cover.
(And in my opinion, original title should be King Arthur, but that isn't supported by the rules as the original title should come from the film credits. When it was shown in the cinema, the credits said King Arthur though. That's why I would use that as original title) | | | 
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | T: King Arthur
E: either "Extended Unrated Version - Director's Cut" or "Director'S Cut - Extended Unrated Version" I wouldn't mind either way
But in no case is EUV or DC part of the title. | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | Why not DC as part of the title? (I'm just asking because I don't understand why not) | | |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | Because it never is. It's a variant/edition/cut of the movie "King Arthur". For example "Blade Runner" has five different cut versions, among them the "Director's Cut" and the "Final Cut". It's still "Blade Runner". | | | Karsten
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| | Posted: | | | | Title = "King Arthur"
Edition = Director's Cut Extended Unrated Edition | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
Because it never is. But it is there on the cover, isn't it? (And in the movie credit. Not the menu, but the movie credit, especially made for this cut) | | |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,774 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with DJ Doena and hal9g.
The first important info is the title: "King Arthur"
Next is the info about the movie-cut or version. So I would enter "Director's Cut" in the first place of the "edition"-field.
last info is about the DVD-version / release-version, that's "Extended Unrated Version" and should come after "Director's Cut".
Title = "King Arthur"
Edition = Director's Cut Extended Unrated Version
(or Edition = Director's Cut - Extended Unrated Version)
I'm not sure if we have rules for separating info in the edition field with a "-", but I would prefer it, because it makes it easier to read. | | | | Last edited: by SpaceFreakMicha |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Title = "King Arthur"
Edition = Director's Cut
There is no Director's cut that is not extended and unrated for this movie. The simplier, the better. | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SpaceFreakMicha: Quote:
I agree with DJ Doena and hal9g.
The first important info is the title: "King Arthur"
Next is the info about the movie-cut or version. So I would enter "Director's Cut" in the first place of the "edition"-field.
last info is about the DVD-version / release-version, that's "Extended Unrated Version" and should come after "Director's Cut".
Title = "King Arthur"
Edition = Director's Cut Extended Unrated Version
(or Edition = Director's Cut - Extended Unrated Version)
I'm not sure if we have rules for separating info in the edition field with a "-", but I would prefer it, because it makes it easier to read. There is a rule. seperate with a colon, so for your opinion Edition Director's Cut: Extended Unrated Edition Just to clarify |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Title = "King Arthur"
Edition = Director's Cut Extended Unrated Edition King Arthur Director's Cut: Extended Unrated Edition  | | |  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,774 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
There is a rule. seperate with a colon, so for your opinion
Edition Director's Cut: Extended Unrated Edition
Just to clarify Thanks, I must have forgotten that.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
Because it never is. It's a variant/edition/cut of the movie "King Arthur". For example "Blade Runner" has five different cut versions, among them the "Director's Cut" and the "Final Cut". It's still "Blade Runner". Why isn't it part of the title, Karsten. It is the On Screen title. Why do you know more than the filmmakers. They made the decision. DC is very clearly part of the title. It is NOT a possessive, the Rules do not allow for any other sourc but the Rules do say "The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself.". I don't understand why everybody thinks they know more than the filmmakers. Just follow the data, the answer is obvious and keep your personal preference out of it, it has absolutely no place in the Online, keep it local Charlie. The filmmakers made their choice and it is obvious, the Theatrical version has no title other than King Arthur, there ios no Theatrical Edition On Screen nor anything. But for the DC the FILMMAKERS decided it was part of the title. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
There is a rule. seperate with a colon, so for your opinion
Edition Director's Cut: Extended Unrated Edition
Just to clarify Actually, as James pointed out in another thread, there isn't. This is the rule, "Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break." There is no mention of editions, only titles. Hal's version is correct. Edit: Hal's version is almost correct. He used 'Edition' where it should have been 'Version'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Why isn't it part of the title, Karsten. It is the On Screen title. Why do you know more than the filmmakers. They made the decision. Use the title from the front cover. Never add distinguishing factors to the title. The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections "Director's Cut" is clearly in a different font and much smaller font size on the cover and we have DCs all the time and it was never part of the title, so my reading of the rules tells me this is the way to go. And in regard to the colon: Rules - I can't find a mentioning of the colon in the edition section of the rules, so I think it's a grey area and I wouldn't vote no on either decision. | | | Karsten
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | My bad, TheMadMartian is of course correct concerning the colon. I didn't think and just use it as a common.  And Skip, I asked for an opinion and your reasonings for that opinion. I can make my own decisions based on that. So please can we try that again?  | | | | Last edited: by CharlieM |
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