Original material by is a little confusing, because to me that could also mean that the original movie script was an original story that has never been published else where. Based on is a key part of the "Story by" credit. If the credit just says "Story by Steven King" then it could be interpreted as the movie story being an original idea by King just for the movie, where as, "Based on a Story by Steven King" indicates that King wrote a story that the screen play is being based upon.

Maybe I just don't understand the "Original Material by" as I haven't really noticed that yet.

I'll keep my opinion to myself. I can see at least three valid arguments here. Call me chicken, but God help you if you call me late for dinner.

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Quoting ya_shin:

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I see many updates/contributes where the existing "Original Material By" is changed to "Story By", based on the fact that the on-screen credit say for example "Based on a short story by Stephen King".

Maybe I got this wrong, but for me the film Story By implies that the story was written for the film and then turned into the screenplay. If an author's story, published elsewhere before, is used "Original Material By" should be used. Unfortunately it's one of those cases where some background knowledge may be required, however, for me seeing a Story by credit for Edgar Allen Poe is just wrong.

Please discuss or let me know where I see this wrong.

You are completely right in your interpretation.

"Story By" should not be used for "Based on a story by....".  It is for stories that were written for the screen and will amost invariably be followed by or preceded by a "Screenplay" credit.

Generally, anything that has been previously published, would get an OMB credit versus a Story By credit.

I agree with ya_shin too

Now, after reading Achim's post, I understand the difference. I can see there being a problem though since, in some cases, we are to contribute exactly what we see on screen. Before reading this I probably would have copied what I saw on the screen. I only hope I remember this when I'm contributing!

I ran into a similar situation with the ratings change. The rating details on the DVD cover are written one way and the rules say to do it another.

I'm afraid we are always going to run into these types of situations. I think I'm just going to have to actually just watch the DVDs instead!

Right.  "Story by" refers to "screen story," which is expressly written for the screen, but it's not as fleshed out as a screenplay.  It's possible to have a movie credit OMB, Story by and Screenplay (in fact I just profiled an Italian movie, PASSION, which has all three).  But "based on a short story by Stephen King" is definitely OMB, not Story by, because it's a different medium not written for the screen.

I will say that agai, this question would not have to be asked with Open Creds.

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I don't agree, hal. You could still participate and input the data that you WANT. And if ken set it up properly you could also update the data that you want. Who are you to determine what is of interest to other users. I am not, but there may be someone with an interest in Gaffers and such, and there may be others who would like to be able to share that data. Partial Contributions are always OK, as long as the data is correct. I find it disappointing that you would set up yourself up to deny other users the data that they might want to have and share. While I understand your nightmares, I have them too, I will not nor should the Online deny any user access to the data from the credits that he/she wants. Your comment smacks of "i'll take my toys and go home".

My big thing, just as when myself and Dan designed the Rules format, there was several goals and one of the big ones was to minimize arguments and problems.

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