Is contributing flip-covers against the contribution rules?

For a few weeks, all new releases of DVDs in Germany are required to have a big ugly ratings-label on the front-side by law.

Since this often destroys the cover-art, some media-companies started to release their DVDs with flip-covers that have the same cover without the ratings-label on the inside, so that collectors can enjoy the covers the way they were supposed to look.

The contribution-rules do not address this problem exactly. The only requirement that even remotely goes into the direction of motive states:
"The covers must match the profile exactly, including the UPC and locality." Which fits to both sides of the cover since the "inside"-cover does match the profile exactly.

I currently have two contributions pending, one where at the moment there are two yes and two no votes. The no-votes stating that the coverscan should only be the side that is required to be shown in shops by law, which in the end would mean that it is against the contribution rules to supply the inside of flip-covers at all.

Two examples:





Backcovers are identical.





The second one could be argued about since there are differences between the covers because the media-company used the space that got available with the loss of the ratings-label and increased the size of the title.


However, in my eyes the contributions are not against the contribution rules since the scans belong to the profile and locality and it is not stated in the rules that we are supposed to contribute the covers as they are seen in the shops...

Quoting Staid S Barr:

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For esthetic reasons, I would drop the ratings indicator when possible.

Seconded! Those FSK-logos are really an eye-sore.

cya, Mithi

IMO the flip-covers are some kind of bonus feature (and should be entered there) and shouldn't be used for the Online Database. You don't buy the DVD with the flip-covers visible. I think almost every collector from Germany dislikes those gigantic rating logos, but this is a personal preference that should stay local. Especially since the rating-logos are mandatory by the law.

Quoting RAPMAN:

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IMO the flip-covers are some kind of bonus feature (and should be entered there) and shouldn't be used for the Online Database. You don't buy the DVD with the flip-covers visible. I think almost every collector from Germany dislikes those gigantic rating logos, but this is a personal preference that should stay local. Especially since the rating-logos are mandatory by the law.

I really hate this new rating logos, but I have to agree.

The online cover should reflect the cover as it is shown in shops or when you buy them new, the flip-cover is an "other feature" and scans of the inner side should be a local thing.

And we could open an extra thread where people could post these inner scans and share them with all who are interested.

Quoting SpaceFreakMicha:

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Quoting RAPMAN:

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IMO the flip-covers are some kind of bonus feature (and should be entered there) and shouldn't be used for the Online Database. You don't buy the DVD with the flip-covers visible. I think almost every collector from Germany dislikes those gigantic rating logos, but this is a personal preference that should stay local. Especially since the rating-logos are mandatory by the law.

I really hate this new rating logos, but I have to agree.

The online cover should reflect the cover as it is shown in shops or when you buy them new, the flip-cover is an "other feature" and scans of the inner side should be a local thing.

Have to agree as well.
I don't like the rating logos either, but they are appearing on the original cover.

Quoting DarklyNoon:

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As much as I dislike those rating Symbols, I would also agree that the cover that is seen in shops should be used, but I would not vote NO, this issue is not in the rules, so I think both sides should be legal right now

Therefore I think we need an official statement from Ken which cover should be contributed. I don't like the rating symbols, but they are on the cover which you buy. To prevent battles wich cover should be use in the database and to prevent that on half is with rating symbol and the other half use the other side of the flip-cover we need something "official". Another german especialness which needs to be solved

Quoting hpopp:

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The second one could be argued about since there are differences between the covers because the media-company used the space that got available with the loss of the ratings-label and increased the size of the title.

And in case of "Futureworld" you are also removing all rating information. There's no rating label nor any other rating info on the "inner" cover. Removing any given information is not an improvement, I think.

It's got nothing to do with bureaucracy. It's got to do with which contains the most useful information. The one that gives you information about how old you have to be to buy the title or the one without that info? Quite logical to me.