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| Registered: May 18, 2007 |  Posts: 232 |
| | Posted: | | | | Got a contribution going, where the DVD cover states that it's a 1.66:1 letterbox video format. The problem is that it seems the original from 1972 is in 1.66:1 format, but when it's been re-recorded for DVD it has been recorded in 1.33:1. The letterbox seems to be in the film, and not actually added by either TV or DVD player.
It's my opinion that it should then be 1.33:1, but if I'm correct should it be Pan & Scan or Fullframe? Or should I use the "picture" for "video" format, and use 1.66:1 as stated on the cover? And if I put 1.66:1, I guess it should be widescreen, right? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hard to answer without specifcs. Covers can be wrong, way too often. But that doesn't mean this one is. How about some more specfic information that can be researched, like title and so forth.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | Norske Byggeklosser, EAN 704127323552.
I am of the opinion that it's 1.66:1 non anamorphic widescreen.
The contribution changes it to 1.66:1 Full Screen | | | 
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | 1.66 is NOT Full Screen ever under any circumstances. The ONLY Full Screen is 1.33.
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| | Posted: | | | | Uploaded a screenshot of the movie:  | | |
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| | Posted: | | | | We have always entered the aspect ratio of the picture. Why would this be any different? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: May 18, 2007 | | Posts: 232 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
1.66 is NOT Full Screen ever under any circumstances. The ONLY Full Screen is 1.33.
Skip I know, and I will change it, but I would like to know for sure what to change it to. But reybr has convinced me that it's a widescreen non anamorphic 1.66:1. Still I'd like to hear what you think. |
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| Registered: May 18, 2007 | | Posts: 232 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
We have always entered the aspect ratio of the picture. Why would this be any different? But what is the pucture? Is it with or without the black top and bottom which also is part of the picture stored on the DVD? Anyway; the screenshot is from a 4:3 screen if I'm not mistaken. On a widescreen screen it would also have black colums on the sides. | | | | Last edited: by Gemini76 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Gemini76: Quote:
But what is the pucture? Is it with or without the black top and bottom which also is part of the picture stored on the DVD? The picture is the place where all the action takes place. The black bars are not part of the picture. Quote:
Anyway; the screenshot is from a 4:3 screen if I'm not mistaken. On a widescreen screen it would also have black colums on the sides. That is called pillar boxed and should tell you why we don't include the bars in the aspect ratio. Those bars change based on the TV you are viewing it on. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Based on that screen shot reybr is correct: it's 1.66:1 non-anamorphic widescreen.
To try and break it down for you:
Pan & Scan: this is when someone has zoomed into a widescreen image in order to fit the old 4:3 TV shape with no black bars.
Full Frame: again this is only used if the whole image covers the old 4:3 TV shape, but is used on two occasions: the original image is 4:3 anyway or the image is "open matte" which means we are seeing information at the top and bottom the film-maker did not intend us to see.
Widescreen: this is ticked if the actual image (not including black bars) is wider than 4:3.
16x9 Enhanced: this is ticked if the whole image including any black bars natively fits the new 16:9 TV shape. Best way to tell is if the covers says it is "anamorphic" or "designed to fit 16x9 screens".
Aspect Ratio: what we are looking for here is the aspect ratio of the moving image, no black bars included. Again if you have no way of measuring it yourself, go by the cover. If the image fills the whole screen on an old 4:3 TV, that's 1.33:1, if it fills the new 16x9 screen that's 1.78:1 | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's definitely 1.66, and appears to me like it is probably not anamorphic.
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| Registered: May 18, 2007 | | Posts: 232 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks. No it's deffinately not anamorphic. And here what convised me: link from reybr: Anamorphic vs. Non-Anamorphic DVD This movie is exactly as the one on the left, but with a slightly different ratio. Changing the profile to 1.66:1 widescreen box ticked then. | | | | Last edited: by Gemini76 |
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