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Registered: November 1, 2007 | Posts: 1 |
| Posted: | | | | Hallo!
I don't know how to solve this issue, so I post it here.
In EAN 5-035822-271234 (Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle) I found Lucy Liu playing the role of Alex. In EAN 5-017188-815789 (The Kill Bill Collection) I found Lucy Alexis Liu playing the role of O-Ren Ishii.
Both are the same person ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005154/ )
This is a very small issue, but maybe someone wants to fix it. He or she will have my gratitude.
Hopefully I posted this into the right forum. If not, please move this posting and accept my apologies.
Yours
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | This is a user built db. As a fellow user, you are able to fix this yourself.
The first thing you need to do is determine which of those credits is the most credited form. To do that, you would use the 'Credit Lookup' tool. That can be found unter the database tab above.
Once entered, you will find that "Lucy Liu" is credited in 402 titles (892 profiles) and "Lucy Alexis Liu" is credited following 72 titles (117 profiles).
Based on that information, and assuming those credits are correct, you would change the entry for 'The Kill Bill Collection' to 'Lucy Liu credited as Lucy Alexis Liu.
If you need more detailed help on how to do this, please don't hesitate to ask. Oh, and welcome to the forums. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | . | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Berak | Bibamus morieundum est! |
Registered: May 10, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Lucy Alexis Liu?! I've not seen her credited as this in any movies I've seen her in, so I have no idea where this credit might have come from.. It would seem that the profile you are referring to is wrong, so you should correct it and explain in your notes that you have corrected the profile according to Film's credits... | | | Berak
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Crynn:
I understand your concerns and Unicus has it right. But allow me to point out to you that this DVDProfiler not some other database that deals in fiction.
Allow me to point out that our Contribution Rules state:
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For the purposes of this section we define "standard" film credits as those where all credited actors involved are listed together in a single section at the end of the film - defined here as the "end credits". The section details both the actor’s Name and the Role that they played in the film. The credits may be listed "in order of appearance", "alphabetical order" or in an order of importance decided by the filmmakers. Some actors may be credited a second time in either credits at either the opening or close of the film.
For any film with standard credits, take the actor information from the end credits only, with names and roles listed exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited. Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead.
So the kind of thing you found is possible, and the answer is through our Alias system. Not you or any other user has the ability to make a decision to change ACTUAL credits.
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Crynn:
I understand your concerns and Unicus has it right. But allow me to point out to you that this DVDProfiler not some other database that deals in fiction.
Allow me to point out that our Contribution Rules state:
Cast
For the purposes of this section we define "standard" film credits as those where all credited actors involved are listed together in a single section at the end of the film - defined here as the "end credits". The section details both the actor’s Name and the Role that they played in the film. The credits may be listed "in order of appearance", "alphabetical order" or in an order of importance decided by the filmmakers. Some actors may be credited a second time in either credits at either the opening or close of the film.
For any film with standard credits, take the actor information from the end credits only, with names and roles listed exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited. Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead.
So the kind of thing you found is possible, and the answer is through our Alias system. Not you or any other user has the ability to make a decision to change ACTUAL credits. You can perhaps document that the Credits a we have thenm listed are incorrect and the ACTUAL credit reads this way, this too happens because ocassionally a user will manage to mainpulate the database on a temporary basis, but when that is discovered as they always are then they should be corrected to match the film's REAL credits per the Rules.
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Billy Video |
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Posts: 281 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Berak: Quote: Lucy Alexis Liu?!
I've not seen her credited as this in any movies I've seen her in, so I have no idea where this credit might have come from.. I understand you have not seen her in any film credit that way but just for your info she is credit as Lucy Alexis Liu in Payback with Mel Gibson. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | That is correct, Dragon.
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| Berak | Bibamus morieundum est! |
Registered: May 10, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dragon 6: Quote: Quoting Berak:
Quote: Lucy Alexis Liu?!
I've not seen her credited as this in any movies I've seen her in, so I have no idea where this credit might have come from.. I understand you have not seen her in any film credit that way but just for your info she is credit as Lucy Alexis Liu in Payback with Mel Gibson. That would explain alot - as I have not seen that movie (and don't intend to do so either ). Still - CLT gives these results; Lucy Liu 402/891 Lucy Alexis Liu 72/117 and she is not credited as Lucy Alexis Liu in Kill Bill... | | | Berak
It's better to burn out than to fade away! True love conquers all! |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,414 |
| Posted: | | | | What locality is this Kill Bill Collection? I suppose if it's non-US there might be a different set of credits, but I don't know which this is supposed to be.
EDIT: From the CLT, it looks like this EAN is for a UK release. There's also a Swiss disc of Kill Bill that has the Lucy Alexis Liu billing listed in the CLT. I wonder where this came from, if not the credits? She's 'Lucy Liu' on the IMDB so the usual culprit isn't involved this time. | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." | | | Last edited: by gardibolt |
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Posts: 281 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Berak: Quote:
Still - CLT gives these results; Lucy Liu 402/891 Lucy Alexis Liu 72/117
and she is not credited as Lucy Alexis Liu in Kill Bill... I did say she was and that is also why I do not go by the CLT 100%. I have found alot of mistakes with it. With that being said that also means there is alot of mistakes in the data base as well. |
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Registered: April 13, 2007 | Posts: 651 |
| Posted: | | | | She's credited as Lucy Alexis Liu in The X-Files, season 3, Episode 19:Hell Money | | | "What's God?" "You know when you want something really bad and you wish for it?, God's the guy that ignores you" -The Island, Steve Buscemi |
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Registered: March 31, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,798 |
| Posted: | | | | She's credited as Lucy Alexis Liu in Jerry Maguire and True Crime |
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Registered: December 3, 2008 | Posts: 186 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Berak: Quote: Quoting Berak:
Still - CLT gives these results; Lucy Liu 402/891 Lucy Alexis Liu 72/117
Ok.. I have a stupid question here... how do you get those statistics here??? Am I missing something on Profiler? Eric | | | E |
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Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,665 |
| Posted: | | | | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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Registered: March 31, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,798 |
| Posted: | | | | Credit lookup tool in database in the tool bar Quoting lostmule: Quote: Quoting Berak:
Quote: Quoting Berak:
Still - CLT gives these results; Lucy Liu 402/891 Lucy Alexis Liu 72/117
Ok.. I have a stupid question here... how do you get those statistics here??? Am I missing something on Profiler?
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