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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLostmule
Ahhhh BRs.. more BRs...
Registered: December 3, 2008
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Hello all, I hope the cold (depending where you are) is not giving making you day miserable lol

Ok question:

- There was a major sale at my favorite DVD store and bought the classic: Mission Impossible TV Series 1-5. I was adding the information on my database and found that someone did the work of inputting all the correct data to each seasons (great work by the way). However, as I was adding my stuff, I noticed that the box were all the same, the collections I got all have very nice slip case which has 2 discs inside, the packaging has the disc number on the cover with a nice picture and the back of the packaging the content of each discs (episode, description and rating). I scanned each of those, associated the imprint of the disc and submitted them to the database (I have seen many many new submission with the Boxcase scanned and each disc scanned with the associated slipcase (for a collection, I think this looks way better and does give a more accurate representation of what is on the shelf).

Now that my summary is out of the way:

Q: I got 'no' vote for those new scan submission with the following premise: "your scan are for a new edition of the same product, not for the actual product". What makes an edition better than the next? Personally, I have no problem to have them scanned for my personal use but I find ironic that all these seasons actually on the market are the one with the individual case instead of that piece of card board we found in some of the series..
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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It's not that the old editions are better than the current editions, its simply that for Invelos the earlier editions take precedence over the current ones.  The way I see it, it's to prevent a ping-ponging of image submissions.

For instance, I just picked up the film Funny Girl.  When I entered it in, the cover that came up is completely different from the one I have.  Mine must be a rerelease of the film.  When I get around to getting a new cover for it, I'll have to keep that local.

After all, since there is obviously no new UPC code for each rerelease of a film onto DVD, if I submitted the cover I have, other folks must have the original release with its cover.  So they wouldn't want the wrong cover any more than I do.  So if Invelos took each cover as it came down, then they wouldn't have the right cover for their collection and would resubmit their cover ... and you see how it would go from there. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
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yeah... unfortunately Invelos don't have the option to store more then 1 set of images per profile so we can choose the cover we actually have. So it is basically first release is what matters... as it says in the rules for coverart..

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If a title is re-released with the same UPC, but different cover images do not contribute the new images. This includes cases where a DVD was initially released in a slipcase, which was later removed. As explained in the introduction you may use your personal images in your local database, but they will not show online.


This can be a pain though... like in my case... there is lots of titles I have that have rerelease cover-art. And I don't have a scanner to scan my own in so I have to either try to find the correct scans online or ask the people here for help to see if anyone else scanned them and have them in their local to share.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
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I think the only exception to the first release rule is when the profile is done by disc ID. For those, it's first come, first served.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLostmule
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You know what guys, I agree with all I have read here.. makes sense to me... Although there are more details on the slip case I have, I will not 'insist' in submitting them here... just because of the swap between submission.. that would be another pain, although the power to accept the changes in the individual database belong to the owner!!

I have them scanned for my own then !! (yeah.. by the way, the discs ID are the same for what ever versions... !!!)

Thanks all!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwidescreenforever
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..and I feel the pain as much as you all do, as well,, My problem disk is the regular Bull Durham comapared to the 'Special Edition' version., same thing here but the white jacketed Special  Ed is the same as the what looks like the second released plain simple looking jacket.,
Same UPC  same ID  same features--,, but differant overview.. 

and as you all know-  by Locking off this disc with the locks you'll never have to worry about it being overridden by a newer contribtion but it pays to look at the new refresh if it comes down the pipe..

It's too bad, or maybe its not.., but we should have our own little club within  the club here where we can share scans with others, who don't have a scanner or their scanner is down,, and they can 'own' that particular cover scan they so desperatley seek...  come to think of it.. We just have to ask. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLostmule
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If any one wanna have a pic of something , I will be happy to help That said, how will people know what version I have if I cannot post them ahhaha More confusion now     
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
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Could always post in a thread any re-release covers that you scan. I know people do this for other things with fairly good results.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
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Quoting lostmule:
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If any one wanna have a pic of something , I will be happy to help That said, how will people know what version I have if I cannot post them ahhaha More confusion now     


All they can really do is to see if they can find a low res version of their cover and/or the copyright date on the back cover. Or they could describe them of course.

Edit: Or you could do as Addicted2DVD says above
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLostmule
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adicted to ... kewlio! I shall do that..

Thanks m8 ;-)
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