Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1 2  Previous   Next
Introducing section in end credits
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantscrewed
Registered: January 5, 2008
Norway Posts: 61
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I was wondering what the correct way to approach the cast section when an introuding section is shown.
As this screenshot of my DVD of The Big Hit I'm adding.

Big Hit end credits snapshot

I was looking at other profiles, and they have added the name in the same way as IMDb.
What should I do?
 Last edited: by screwed
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbizarre_eye
eye see you...
Registered: May 1, 2008
United Kingdom Posts: 503
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
The rules state that the Cast should be entered exactly as credited, which is taken from the end credits of the movie.

IMDB?! - Blasphemy! Only joking, but IMDB is a fairly dirty acronym around here, many of the profiles that contain IMDB data are pre-release profiles or fairly obscure ones that are owned by few users. However, many complete profiles containing IMDB data have slipped through the net. Personally I don't care where the data came from, as long as it is correct  but when contributing (and particularly for Cast & Crew) order them as per credited in the end credits, and state that in your contribution notes, or expect a deluge of red 'no' votes!
DVD
Blu-Ray
LastFM
 Last edited: by bizarre_eye
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantscrewed
Registered: January 5, 2008
Norway Posts: 61
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
yes, I've learned that IMDb isnt a favorite here.
And I can understand why after checking the end credits and then going over to IMDb for a laugh to see how they have done the credits.

I always use the end credits, just got a little unsure on how to do this one.
And seeing as all the other profiles I looked at had IMDb style credits, some have certainly slipped through the net

but anyway, how do I actually make that section in the cast on DVD Profiler?
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantgardibolt
digitally Obsessed
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 1,414
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
If the introducing person is in the end credits (a second time), then I'd use the placement that person has there.  If it's just the "Introducing" before the end credits, then I don't think you have any choice but to put the "Introducing" person first.  I don't think I'd do anything special about the "Introducing" credit, though.
"This movie has warped my fragile little mind."
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantscrewed
Registered: January 5, 2008
Norway Posts: 61
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting gardibolt:
Quote:
If the introducing person is in the end credits (a second time), then I'd use the placement that person has there.  If it's just the "Introducing" before the end credits, then I don't think you have any choice but to put the "Introducing" person first.  I don't think I'd do anything special about the "Introducing" credit, though.

no, she is not mentioned later in the credits. IMDb as well as the other profiles I looked at stated so, but I am looking at the end credits right now and can safely say that they are incorrect.

I made a Divider saying "Introducing" then put the credit there, then made another divider saying "Cast" and continued.
Hopefully it will be good enough for approval.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 21,610
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I wouldn't be one to complain about it, as long as your notes were clear.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
Registered: April 3, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 1,998
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Don't know if this discussion on dividers may help
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=234538
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbigdaddyhorse
Registered: June 21, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,621
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Introducing is the same as "starring" imo, and probably doesn't warrent a divider. Plus many movies will say "introducing" and be outright lying as it can be the actor's 3rd-7th film. If we start using dividers for this, then there's gonna be wave of new dividers that will get so silly many will just stop caring. I can see it now, "featuring", "and", "also starring", "with" dividers. Don't go down that road!

While the rules say to list them "exactly as they appear", I don't think this was in mind.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorreybr
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Norway Posts: 906
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Please don't use a divider, just add her at the top of the cast list

The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorBad Father
Registered: July 23, 2001
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 4,596
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
If the person is listed before the standard credits then that person is added to the top of the cast list per rules. Absolutely no divider.
My WebGenDVD online Collection
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantscrewed
Registered: January 5, 2008
Norway Posts: 61
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Thank you for all the responses.
I will add the name on the top of the list before the standard credits.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 21,610
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
.
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
 Last edited: by Winston Smith
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 21,610
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting 8ballMax:
Quote:
If the person is listed before the standard credits then that person is added to the top of the cast list per rules. Absolutely no divider.


Not sure how I feel about this one, 8Ball. A case could be made on either side. When the Rules was designed this was not even a question as we had no dividers that we could use one way or the other. I think quite possibly using the dividers in this type of instance would certainly be in keeping with the spirit of the Rule, listing the data EXACTLY as displayed and would give the benefit of adding clarity to the data.

<shrugs>

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantgardibolt
digitally Obsessed
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 1,414
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I would lean towards no dividers, but wouldn't vote no either way, so long as it was properly explained in documentation.
"This movie has warped my fragile little mind."
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,330
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I would say no on the dividers as well.
Pete
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,201
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I agree, no divider.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1 2  Previous   Next