Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next
Question about rating details capitalization rules.
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbigdaddyhorse
Registered: June 21, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,621
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Real simple. The word "some" in rating details.... Connector that stays lower-case, or word that gets Capitalized? I've been seeing a lot of both lately and the rules aren't perfectly clear, so I take it to a poll.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
Who is John Galt?
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 6,635
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
"Some" is and adjective, a pronoun or an adverb, depending upon use.  It is not a "connecting word", therefore it should be capitalized.
Hal
 Last edited: by hal9g
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantKCJammer
Registered: October 8, 2008
United States Posts: 24
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
The rule cites "joining words" which I think of as conjunctions.
The word "some" is typically used as an adjective describing, for example, the amount of "Language" or "Drug Content" or "Violence" in a film.
I feel it should be capitalized when used in writing out rating detail.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,201
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
What Hal and KC said.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,330
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I agree as well
Pete
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorBad Father
Registered: July 23, 2001
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 4,596
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Agree with the rest here. Some is an adjective...not a connecting or joining word.
My WebGenDVD online Collection
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarklyNoon
No Godz, No Masterz
Registered: May 8, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 1,945
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Also agree , that it should be capitalized
www.tvmaze.com
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
Registered: July 31, 2008
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 2,506
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Agree that as per the current rules it should be capitalised.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbizarre_eye
eye see you...
Registered: May 1, 2008
United Kingdom Posts: 503
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Personally I think that they should be written as per the DVD cover, and not via this capitalisation nonsense. To me the rating details on a DVD is apparent as a sentence written as prose. It is not a title, or a name so therefore should all be lower case except the first letter of the first word, which starts the sentence. Amending this frankly odd rlule would save on discussions like this and also prevent any ambiguity when it comes to contributions and submissions. I have seen a few 'no' votes tossed about when a user has submitted an update but has not captalised the rating details... I mean we take the Title, Edition, and Overview of the DVD straight from the cover, so why not the rating details? Crazy.

Anyway, rant over... just thought I'd put in my 5 pence worth. It's just that I can forsee many queries involving "what is an adjoining word" etc. which is sometimes still brought up when Titles are concerned, never mind rating details...
DVD
Blu-Ray
LastFM
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
Registered: July 31, 2008
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 2,506
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
I completely agree and can't understand why for English profiles we do it like that but for ALL other languages they can follow their capitalisation rules. Surely it should be the same for all. The only reason I can think of for this is that plenty of US releases have it formatted that way. I am one of those who has said no to "properly" formatted releases because of this rule but in most cases I did apologise in the vote.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantgardibolt
digitally Obsessed
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 1,414
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Problem with the case rule is all too often they're in full caps, so we need to have something to cover that, and then we might as well just be consistent down the line.
"This movie has warped my fragile little mind."
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,201
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
Quote:
I completely agree and can't understand why for English profiles we do it like that but for ALL other languages they can follow their capitalisation rules. Surely it should be the same for all. The only reason I can think of for this is that plenty of US releases have it formatted that way. I am one of those who has said no to "properly" formatted releases because of this rule but in most cases I did apologise in the vote.


Just to be clear, for other languages we follow their capitalisation rules "as commonly used for titles."  That is what this rule is after for English profiles.  The problem is, the rule isn't complete.  These are the five general rules of capitalization:

  • Always capitalize the first and last word no matter what.

  • Capitalize all nouns, pronouns, verbs, adjectives, and adverbs.  Remember, “it” is a pronoun.

  • Do not capitalize articles, such as “a,” “an,” or “the” unless rule number 1 applies.

  • Do not capitalize conjunctions (and, but, for, or).

  • Do not capitalize the word “to” when it precedes a verb.


  • The rules only mention the 4th one, which can cause problems.  In addition, those rules only apply to American English.  The rules for the UK, or Australia, or any other english speaking country are different.  This also causes a problem.  Bottom line, the rule needs to be changed.
    No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
    There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
    Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
    The Centauri learned this lesson once.
    We will teach it to them again.
    Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
    - Citizen G'Kar
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
    Retired Profiler
    Registered: March 13, 2007
    Reputation: Highest Rating
    United States Posts: 20,111
    Posted:
    PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
    Yep, capitalize it.
    Corey
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
    Registered: March 13, 2007
    United States Posts: 453
    Posted:
    PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
    I agree with everyone, also as gardibolt said we need to be consistant which would include the mouseover!
        Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next