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Digital only files (A.K.A "The Death of physical format")
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantasoto
Registered: April 3, 2007
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With the advent of multiple sites that offer direct downloads of TV series and movies I am starting to have a little collection of digital files (mainly seasons of TV shows) that lie in my HardDisk unintegrated with the rest of my media (nicely managed by DVDProfiler)

Is there any chance a future version of DVDProfiler would add support for the growing reality of no-disc based movies and TV Shows?
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DVD Obermotz
Registered: March 13, 2007
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I agree with this also.

We have had several threads for DivX mives and stuff, but now ....

iTunes release same day as DVD and more and more people use media centers and less dvd players...

we could use some MOV, WMY, DivX/XviD, etc... options
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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Registered: May 19, 2007
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OMNSHO, OT, and other acronyms - it'll only be the death of the physical format when they provide 50 GB movie downloads. 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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Interesting idea - but how would we identify the profiles? There is no UPC or disc ID with digital files.
Although I wouldn't object to having a "digital media" format, as we do for the HD formats, which, when selected, turns a DVD profile into a manual (non-submittable) digital profile. That way you can download a DVD profile for the film, then turn it into a digital profile for your own database.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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So you want DigitalProfiler? or would it be HDDProfiler? The physical format is not going to die anytime soon. Probably not in your lifetime, definitely not in mine.

To expand a bit. Here;s why I don't see the physical format dying. Based on all of my experience in computers and just here watching users. People don't backup their data enough, they also don't think beyond the computer they a currently using, so we see things like, how do I get back up and running now that I have a new computer. These are ongoing issues that have been around for years and I don't foresee them being resolved anytime soon.

Skip
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantRon
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Ho guys,

While I also agree that the subject title is a unrealistic, asoto's statement "growing reality of no-disc based movies and TV Shows" it very valid. 

@ Killpatient, I agree that it will be a long time until blue ray quality is reached in the main stream, but there is already downloads out there that do match it.  My media center is full of the 1080p trailers... 

@ northbloke, a primary key will definitely require some thought.....

some of the stuff I download gets watched and deleted.  But the kids stuff stays for rainy days and the stuff I really like gets burned to DVD+-R but normally several things to a disc (I keep the genre consistent).
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantasoto
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While I intentionally use a catchy phrase for the subject  I do agree with posters that physical formats are not in inminent danger, however Ron got my point, how do we going about managing our file-based movie/tv collection?

I do love DVDProfiler so yes skipnet50  I think I want a HDDProfiler or DigitalProfiler (in fact I want it added to the current software as a One Stop Central Point for audiovisual entertainment management)
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantPro_Trek
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Registered: March 15, 2007
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Quoting northbloke:
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Interesting idea - but how would we identify the profiles? There is no UPC or disc ID with digital files.
Although I wouldn't object to having a "digital media" format, as we do for the HD formats, which, when selected, turns a DVD profile into a manual (non-submittable) digital profile. That way you can download a DVD profile for the film, then turn it into a digital profile for your own database.


thats not really correct.. there's CRC and the more advanced and accurate SHA1

different files might have the same CRC or can be hacked to have the same CRC
but SHA1 is 100% unique so files have to be identical copys to have same SHA1

you can say its the files "disc ID"
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantTilandra
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Setting aside the debate over whether or not physical media will die....

I also have a growing inventory of digital media (purchased on Amazon Instant, freebies from VuDu, etc.) that have no disc-based twins in my collection.  IT WOULD BE NICE to be able to shake my movie picker and have those additional titles to choose from.  Or just have it showing in my list of titles.

Cause I'm never buying "The Grudge" on disc, that's for sure.  But a guest might want to see it.


ETA:  I just realized the age of this thread.  Any resolution?  I don't dig very deep in the menus I'm afraid.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Quoting Tilandra:
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IT WOULD BE NICE to be able to shake my movie picker and have those additional titles to choose from.

[...]

ETA:  I just realized the age of this thread.  Any resolution?  I don't dig very deep in the menus I'm afraid.


It's not only the AGE of the thread that is a problem ... This is Feature Request for the Desktop version. Shaking a PC (or its components) is usually not recommended.


EDIT: For the Desktop-version you may want to take custom Media Types and Collection categories into consideration. They should solve your problem (except for the shaking, of course).
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantTilandra
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Quoting Lewis_Prothero:

Shaking a PC (or its components) is usually not recommended.

EDIT: For the Desktop-version you may want to take custom Media Types and Collection categories into consideration. They should solve your problem (except for the shaking, of course).


Ha ha!  I suppose I should have mentioned I'm using a hybrid method where I'm doing most of my database management on my PC, but doing most of my "fun" stuff like browsing with an iPad.  For PC I understand F10 is pick a movie.

What I want to do is have it so that I (or a guest) pick a title they want to watch, see all the available format options, and choose the one they'd prefer to use.

I think I've figured out how to do what I want... use "Add Disc" and edit the listing to say "Digital HD", then personalize by putting the location (Vudu.com, for example) and then marking the "Never Contribute" attribute so I don't mess anyone's data up.

I assume I can do a lookup per location if I want to see all my Vudu titles?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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I assume I can do a lookup per location if I want to see all my Vudu titles?


Its much easier:
Menu: Tools -> Edit Media Types
Here you can add as many Media-Formats as you like (e.g. Vudu, UV, Netflix, etc). This way they would be search-able by filtering for specific Media Types.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantTilandra
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Deleting odd duplicate post and saying thanks!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNexus the Sixth
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Another method is to use tags since they aren't really different media types. Or use collection categories in combination with custom media types.
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