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Registered: June 25, 2007 | Posts: 2 |
| Posted: February 18, 2008 3:29 AM | | | | I would love to see the theatrical release date added to the Profiler. Remove the production year and replace it with theatrical release  |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | Posts: 1,946 |
| Posted: February 18, 2008 6:41 AM | | | | Production year is currently used as theatrical release year. There has been a discussion regarding this topic previously. The problem with this approach is, the theatrical release date of which country. Movies often don't have global release dates, risking to get ping-pong contributions. In my opinion, but this has not been accepted, the value that belongs in there is the copyright date. It is consistent for everyone and can be verified from the credits. As for theatrical release dates, you have to rely on 3rd party databases.  | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: February 18, 2008 9:22 AM | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote: The problem with this approach is, the theatrical release date of which country. Movies often don't have global release dates, risking to get ping-pong contributions. I'd say: the theatrical release date in the film's country of origin. There may however be cases where a film wasn't released in its CoO first... |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | Posts: 1,946 |
| Posted: February 18, 2008 10:19 AM | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote: Quoting cvermeylen:
Quote: The problem with this approach is, the theatrical release date of which country. Movies often don't have global release dates, risking to get ping-pong contributions.
I'd say: the theatrical release date in the film's country of origin. There may however be cases where a film wasn't released in its CoO first... That still doesn't solve the issue of needing 3rd party info while a verifiable date is available in the credits. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: February 18, 2008 11:23 AM | | | | True. But it is where we stand today. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: February 18, 2008 12:03 PM | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote: Quoting cvermeylen:
Quote: The problem with this approach is, the theatrical release date of which country. Movies often don't have global release dates, risking to get ping-pong contributions.
I'd say: the theatrical release date in the film's country of origin. There may however be cases where a film wasn't released in its CoO first... and how would anyone contributing a title know this information? In the end, easily verifiable information is the only thing we can contribute. | | | Paul |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 235 |
| Posted: February 18, 2008 12:29 PM | | | | I agree, this is not a good idea. The release dates can also be a bit fuzzy. Sometimes movies get a limited release first, at a festival etc and a wider release later on - especially smaller movies, indies, foreign movies etc. And what about TV shows? original air dates can be difficult to find a reliable source on. | | | DVD Profiler på Dansk |
| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: February 18, 2008 12:53 PM | | | | All of this is true, but it wasn't MY idea (please don't shoot the messenger!  ) - and, moreover, it's not an IDEA but the current RULE. It is simply what we are supposed to do right now. From the Contribution Rules: " Production YearEnter the year of the original theatrical release. For films that have been updated (e.g., a Special Edition or Directors Cut) use the year of the original release, not the year that the re-release was “made” or released." Yes, there have been discussions before on whether or not to count festival releases, and yes, this information can only be found through third-party sources. (And yes, the current name of this field in DVDP is misleading, I might add...) I'll grant you all this, but a rule change is required to meet your objections. So please voice your objections in the Contribution Rules Committee rather than to me.  | | | Last edited: February 18, 2008 12:53 PM by dee1959jay |
| Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation:  | Posts: 1,807 |
| Posted: February 18, 2008 1:01 PM | | | | If I could change the Rules, I would say that we contribute Copyright Year from film credits, into a field called "Copyright Year", and that's it. Now we are supposed to contribute the Original Theatrical Release year (in a field called Production Year, as if all movies were released in the same year of production), but how would we know the Original Theatrical Release year for sure, anyway? Often it's taken from third party databases, and I'll bet from one in particular  | | | -- Enry |
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