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Because if their standard is what we are striving for, we are not aiming very high.

One might say though that aiming for the highest will only lead to shooting yourself.

Quoting Lewis_Prothero:

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OK,

to make it somewhat simpler.

When buying a Mercedes for having the best comfort, it is absolutely useless to ask the manufacturer for a BMW engine.

Why does anyone think that Invelos should do this?

I'm not trying to get a BMW engine in a Mercedes, I'm only are trying to get some extra options in. As also Mercedes is copying from BMW and BMW from Mercedes. If everybody would stay on their own, only a few cars would have a Windshield wiper. They also have being taken from other brands and implanted into their own. And I don't want to get another engine, but only an extra option.

Quoting CharlieM:

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Invisibleman...

When you are over at IMDB, do you also go onto there message boards and demand that they incorporate a scraping or import function to take accurately ordered and proper cast lists from DVDProfiler?

How about demand that they retrieve proper DVD/BD specs from invelos?

To provide scraping is illegal.  To provide content through a license for a commercial product costs money (as a matter of point, if any company wanted to use the information contained within profiler, I am sure that Ken would also charge a fee).

If you want the information for your DB, DJ has created a very well thought out set of tools (that he has put considerable time into) that will do what you are asking. 

I do not see why you want Ken to build it into the program, and expect everybody to pay for your access to IMDB, even though they have expressed the fact they do not want it..

Charlie

If for any program, or whatever, I think there can be improvement, yes I would ask for that. If nobody ask for improvement, then nothing will change for the better. But if people, like I see in this post, are refusing options, that they don't need to use if they don't want, then yes, everything will stay the same.

And I really do find it strange, that people are refusing something, that can benefit others and also Invelos (for I'm sure they will sell more programs) only because they don't want to use that option. And I'm sorry, but I can't see any reasonable reasons from them, other then that they don't want to use it and so therefore it should not being implanted.  And even more so, the way I would like to have it implanted, they even would benefit themselves, for the database they are using would even stay more clean, from the IMDB data, that they all same to find so far from perfect as they would like to see. So again, I am amazed by the refusal of them, 'm sorry to say.

And further more, regarding the money, any option you can set on or off in any program, so if you don't want to pay Ken make it so you can't use. It is all possible when creating/writing such a program and/or option.

Quoting Invisibleman:

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I'm only are trying to get some extra options in.

Your insistence that invelos and only invelos do something that they have stated they will not do has become tiresome.

You refuse to try or even acknowledge that there are plug-ins that will accomplish exactly what you are asking invelos to implement.

It seems to me that your posts are nothing more than a perfect example of internet trolling.

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Quoting Invisibleman:

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I'm only are trying to get some extra options in.

Your insistence that invelos and only invelos do something that they have stated they will not do has become tiresome.

You refuse to try or even acknowledge that there are plug-ins that will accomplish exactly what you are asking invelos to implement.

It seems to me that your posts are nothing more than a perfect example of internet trolling.

Hello Katy,

Then name me one plugin that will do the request I have? And with plugin, I mean plugin, not an external tool.

Quoting Lewis_Prothero:

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Quoting Invisibleman:

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Quoting Lewis_Prothero:

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OK,

to make it somewhat simpler.

When buying a Mercedes for having the best comfort, it is absolutely useless to ask the manufacturer for a BMW engine.

Why does anyone think that Invelos should do this?

I'm not trying to get a BMW engine in a Mercedes

In fact you are.
The engine is a core-component of a car and (almost) every manufacturer prides himself in developing his own.

The same is correct for DVDProfiler and IMDb too. The databases are their core-components, all other is built around this and without them they would be entirely useless frontend-software.

So you are asking for the BMW engine. Or to stay in the picture of software: Just see what happens if you try to persuade McAffee to use the Definition databases from Norton, after all they are freely available on the Internet and so much more complete.

Hello Lewis,

That is your opinion and am not saying that yours is wrong or that is right. But my opinion is that the core-component is the program itself and how it is to be used, the database where it is getiing the data from is in my opinion secondary, yet important I don't deny, but not the core. But again, that is my opinion.

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One final point - you posted a poll to gain an insight into what the community thought about your idea.

60 votes were cast and only 4 people support this idea.

The vast majority, 43 of 60, do not want this implemented at all.

11 of 60 don't mind but only if that data is not uploaded to the online database.

Therefore 54 of 60 people do not support your idea.

I suggest you accept the poll results as well as invelos' policy that your suggestion is not something that the community wants or invelos will implement.

I do accept, the poll and all. But I just responding on the remarks that are made. And the post that are putting here, are making it look like I am trying to force you all, to change the way you have to work with profiler and that I am trying to make it so that the data should be uploading to DVD profiler's database and that is not what I am trying to do. But it seems like lots of you are not reading my intent.

It's the same like you are doing, you also replying to comments made, so I think I am entiteled as much as you are to reply to any comment.

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Hello Katy,

Then name me one plugin that will do the request I have? And with plugin, I mean plugin, not an external tool.

You might want to read through this thread - I found at least one option.

Quoting mediadogg:

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Another plugin example is BulkEdit. It has built-in functions to import CSV, CollectorZ (at least as of a couple of years ago), DVD Spot (obsolete web site) and DVDP XML.

The CSV import can be customized, but it defaults to the format created by the CSV Export plugin. If you have a program that creates DVDP XML from IMDB (or anywhere else), BulkEdit can create a local database from it. But you can't upload it, and if you try to refresh from Invelos, all the IMDB metadata will be overwritten, so it would be a local-only process.

Of course you can not upload it - that would be violating invelos rules - but that shouldn't be a problem since you have never contributed to the online database.