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Need an extra Department of 3D Blu-ray |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting SwissFilm: Quote: It is so simple. I just need to find all my 3D Blu-rays I have with one click in my collection. Not make a 3D collection or such things, I have one collection and will find with one click all my 3D, thats simple, not? And that's the request all the normal users have. Just create a collection category called 3D and you can find all of them with one click. Very easy and very simple. Or you can create custom media type 3D Blu ray and use media type filter. Simple and easy also. Why is it so complicate? |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting SwissFilm: Quote: It is so simple. I just need to find all my 3D Blu-rays I have with one click in my collection. How do you find all your B-rDs resp. DVDs with one click? | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | @SwissFilm: As mreeder50 already said: until the next programme update, use Tags. I think they will let you do what you want to do: find all your 3D Blu-rays very easily. |
| Registered: November 11, 2009 | Posts: 2 |
| Posted: | | | | Well, I've read through this entire laborious thread and it seems we have two camps: 1) Those who want 3D as a checkbox in the Media Type section and 2) Those who insist on leveling all manner of put-downs at those in the first camp.
It seems that the primary argument on the part of those in the second camp is that 3D versions of a movie are recorded on BluRay discs and so it's not a different Media Type from BluRay. One might argue that logic by pointing out that HD DVD versions of a movie are recorded on DVD discs. That means the argument they use to keep 3D out of the Media Types would also negate the fact that DVD Profiler already includes a separate Media Type for HD DVD.
Probably 75% of the discussion has been about codecs and the technical means by which 3D versions of a movie are recorded and played back.
But see if you can grasp this much simpler perspective: With rare exception (I'm not aware of any, but I'll concede they may possibly exist), ...
- When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a DVD, BluRay and 3D BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? THREE! - When you purchase a move and it's advertised as having a DVD and a BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? TWO! - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a BluRay and a 3D BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? TWO! - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? ONE! - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a DVD version of the movie included, how many discs are included? ONE! - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a 3D BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? ONE!
My point is that those of you who have argued against 3D BluRay as a Media Type have gotten bogged down in a technical argument that really needs nothing more than a pair of eyeballs to count how many discs are included!
Technically speaking, sometimes there's a separate disc included for a Digital Copy and sometimes the Digital Copy is stored in the cloud and you're given a key to grant you access to that copy (UltraViolet is a good example). The cloud (and/or that separate disc) also count as an additional media piece which has its own type. As a result, that could also technically qualify as a Media Type (ie, Digital Copy) that would yearn for some other area to designate what type of Digital Copy it was.
I think what people requesting that 3D BluRay be included as a Media Type are wanting iis a single standard means of recording that information and not have everyone handling it in their own different and unique manner.
The whole discussion would go a lot more smoothly and advance us towards a better recommendation/request if we could all state our opinions without the need to resort to putting down those who happen to have a different opinion. I think everyone's objective is to make DVD Profiler a better product for us all and not to waste time on superfluous arguments.
Thanks for tolerating my two cents worth on the topic. | | | Last edited: by MSpencer50 |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting MSpencer50: Quote: - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a DVD, BluRay and 3D BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? THREE! Or two, ore more than three. Quote: - When you purchase a move and it's advertised as having a DVD and a BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? TWO! Or more. Quote: - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a BluRay and a 3D BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? TWO! Or one, or more than two. Quote: - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? ONE! Or more. Quote: - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a DVD version of the movie included, how many discs are included? ONE! Or more. Quote: - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a 3D BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? ONE! Or more. Quote: My point is that those of you who have argued against 3D BluRay as a Media Type have gotten bogged down in a technical argument that really needs nothing more than a pair of eyeballs to count how many discs are included! ?? | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting MSpencer50: Quote: It seems that the primary argument on the part of those in the second camp is that 3D versions of a movie are recorded on BluRay discs and so it's not a different Media Type from BluRay. One might argue that logic by pointing out that HD DVD versions of a movie are recorded on DVD discs. ?????????? Quote: That means the argument they use to keep 3D out of the Media Types would also negate the fact that DVD Profiler already includes a separate Media Type for HD DVD. ?????????? Quote: My point is that those of you who have argued against 3D BluRay as a Media Type have gotten bogged down in a technical argument that really needs nothing more than a pair of eyeballs to count how many discs are included! ????????? What the amount of discs has to do with media type? Quote: I think what people requesting that 3D BluRay be included as a Media Type are wanting iis a single standard means of recording that information and not have everyone handling it in their own different and unique manner. Media type just aren't the correct place since correct media type for 3D Blu-ray is Blu-ray. Yes, it's a same media. DVD and HD DVD are completely different medias. |
| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: ![High Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/1.png) | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | HD DVDs are not recorded on DVDs. 3D blu-rays are often separate discs, but not necessarily. Dredd and Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs are hybrids. You might as well argue that since full-screen and widescreen are frequently separate DVDs, they should be separate formats. |
| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation: ![High Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/1.png) | Posts: 2,934 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting MSpencer50: Quote:
It seems that the primary argument on the part of those in the second camp is that 3D versions of a movie are recorded on BluRay discs and so it's not a different Media Type from BluRay. One might argue that logic by pointing out that HD DVD versions of a movie are recorded on DVD discs. That means the argument they use to keep 3D out of the Media Types would also negate the fact that DVD Profiler already includes a separate Media Type for HD DVD. This statement in itself is incorrect. An HDDVD and a standard DVD have different characteristics, such that an HD DVD will create a read error in a dvd player. So in technicality, these mediums are compltely different. In BD vs 3DBD, the medium itself is unchanged. They are both BluRay standard format discs. The difference is a software, or firmware difference. hence 3 differnet mediums or media type. Quote: - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a DVD, BluRay and 3D BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? THREE! - When you purchase a move and it's advertised as having a DVD and a BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? TWO! - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a BluRay and a 3D BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? TWO! - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? ONE! - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a DVD version of the movie included, how many discs are included? ONE! - When you purchase a movie and it's advertised as having a 3D BluRay version of the movie included, how many discs are included? ONE! This argument has nothing to do with media type, only media quantity. This argument actually needs to come down in how we treat box sets, not a media argument Quote: My point is that those of you who have argued against 3D BluRay as a Media Type have gotten bogged down in a technical argument that really needs nothing more than a pair of eyeballs to count how many discs are included! this is nothing but a technical argument. It is a technical difference not a quantity difference Quote: Technically speaking, sometimes there's a separate disc included for a Digital Copy and sometimes the Digital Copy is stored in the cloud and you're given a key to grant you access to that copy (UltraViolet is a good example). The cloud (and/or that separate disc) also count as an additional media piece which has its own type. As a result, that could also technically qualify as a Media Type (ie, Digital Copy) that would yearn for some other area to designate what type of Digital Copy it was. A completely separate argument Quote: I think what people requesting that 3D BluRay be included as a Media Type are wanting iis a single standard means of recording that information and not have everyone handling it in their own different and unique manner. This is what everybody wants, but to put everybody down because you feel we do not understand the argument is intellectual dishonesty. Quote: The whole discussion would go a lot more smoothly and advance us towards a better recommendation/request if we could all state our opinions without the need to resort to putting down those who happen to have a different opinion. I think everyone's objective is to make DVD Profiler a better product for us all and not to waste time on superfluous arguments. We have expressed our opinions, the powers that be have not made the decision, so all we can do is work with what we have. Apparently, some will not be happy, if ever a change does happen. |
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