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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
I understand that, Martian. But I DO use it, I want the data as it is credited, which means if I see DANNY DEVITO and my list has Danny DeVito, I will enter Danny DeVito(Danny Devito), so that I can capture the data As Credited and I can appreciate what Ken has tried to do. But if he updates Danny DeVito to my As Credited Danny Devito that is incorrect data to me and my data has subsequently been corrupted. Now as I see it there are some possible fixes, none of which do I have any idea whether they may be in place or not, One is not to overwrite MY data, the second is user to user Communication in their notes, to me a preferable state of affairs, but highly unlikely unfortunately, because the sensitivity to user to user cooperation does not exist.. Quite the contrary, as repeatedly demonstrated by one user, who loves t say it is not required in the Rules, so even though, for example including DiscID data as discussed by myself and Pete, if it is not a requirement in the Rules to include that data in your notes, then as both Pete and I know, despite the fact that it is useful information when it is included, people simply, by and large do it themselves because they don't HAVE to. It reminds me of the bad old days when users used to say "They are only Guidelines, we don't HAVE to follow them." In short, we aren't a TEAM.
Skip I feel for you, I really do. As I said in my previous post, I prefer my cast list a certain way. Because of that, once I have it set up, I can no longer download any changes to that cast list. If I do, my data gets replaced by the data that is in the main profile. It does suck, because I have to look at the changes and make them manually, but I don't see that as an issue that Ken has to fix. I decided to deviate from the norm, so it is up to me to protect my data. Again, just my opinion. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | There is a difference between a list which you know departs in its entirety, shame on you.   and a single name in the list, which has now been changed to an arbitrary standard, which MAY or MAY not deviate from As Credited and i have no way to know. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Quoting AESP_pres:
Are you surprise? Someone obviously try to get it lock...
Don't blame me, AESP. I am only after some answers.
But would it be better to open a new topic for this? | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
There is a difference between a list which you know departs in its entirety, shame on you. Actually, and I think it was James who made the suggestion, I use dividers for this. I have the cast from the opening credits listed first, then a divider that says, as an example, 'Cast in Alphabetical Order', followed by the actual end credit cast list. It's a pain in the buttocks to create, and an even bigger pain when I have to contribute, but it gives me what I need. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AESP_pres: Quote:
Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Quoting AESP_pres:
Are you surprise? Someone obviously try to get it lock...
Don't blame me, AESP. I am only after some answers.
But would it be better to open a new topic for this? Maybe, but Ken made the comment HERE, AESP and I just followed up. I forgot that I am not allowed to raise such issues myself and will be beaten for even daring to do so...my apologies. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 599 |
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| | Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
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| | Registered: March 11, 2009 | | Posts: 211 |
| | Posted: | | | | Please do not quoting a post which you feel requires edit. It just adds to the moderator's workload. Instead, use the red arrow to report the post which will bring it to the attention of the mods. |
| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 599 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forum Moderator: Quote:
Please do not quoting a post which you feel requires edit. It just adds to the moderator's workload. Instead, use the red arrow to report the post which will bring it to the attention of the mods. Thank you for the swift response, I'll shall in the future.  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hmmm, fascinating, other users claim special treatment but get it themselves in spades.  They are allowed spew just as much useless, belittling and demeaning chatter as they wish. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Hmmm, fascinating, other users claim special treatment but get it themselves in spades. They are allowed spew just as much useless, belittling and demeaning chatter as they wish.
Skip You got your own spade and your digging your own grave here. Im out of these contribution threads. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting gardibolt: Quote:
As far as I'm concerned, proper linking is far, far more important than picking up minutiae of capitalization or punctuation. YMMV. Couldn't agree more. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
As I said when I laid out the Rule plan it was to serve everyone, not the few, not the majority, not even MOST...everybody. Nice idea, but totally unrealistic. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
I understand that, Martian. But I DO use it, I want the data as it is credited, which means if I see DANNY DEVITO and my list has Danny DeVito, I will enter Danny DeVito(Danny Devito), so that I can capture the data As Credited and I can appreciate what Ken has tried to do. But you are not capturing it "As Credited". If you were, you would enter it as "Danny DeVito [DANNY DEVITO]". | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting gardibolt:
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As far as I'm concerned, proper linking is far, far more important than picking up minutiae of capitalization or punctuation. YMMV.
Couldn't agree more. Agree as well. As far as I'm concerned, if there's one issue that needs fixing, it's this one. |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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If that would be useful information for you, Martian, I would be only too happy to provide it and therin lies the difference. It's only a few strokes on the keyboard, and i am not lazy.
Skip
I would not, however, expect any user to do that for me and therin lies the difference. For me, it isn't about the other user being lazy, it is about me expecting him to do more than is required by Invelos. As long as a user is following the rules, I am happy. To expect them to do more than that, in my opinion, is unreasonable. Fully agree with Martian. What Skip seems to forget is that most DVDP users are unable and probably unwilling to spend 7-8 hours on this program a day, like he said he's doing himself earlier in this thread. Given the fact that most users act within a limited time frame, I'd rather have them spend that time on contributing and documenting in agreement with Invelos requirements than on suiting the additional preferences of individuals. The time the latter would take can be put to better use for the community at large doing more of the former instead. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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