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And the system works, if everyone adds good data to it. A lot of Asian titles are being corrupted by entering first and middle name as a double last name.

I have no idea how you ended up with this idea. There are no middle names in China/HK.

Pang//Yun Cheung would be the right parsing with Pang being the family name.

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You are hung up on your preference. the system works IF you stop trying to interpret the data and remember that all we are trying to achieve an approximation of the data as it appears On screen PERIOD, nothing else. You want to do something else locally that is your business as it should be. Once you comprehend what we are trying to achieve you will then understand when i say culrtre is completely IRRELEVANT, the culture is the credit.

No sugar the rules don't leave you alone, they say to enter the data exactly as it appears On Screen, interpretation is irelevant. I f On Screen says Chow Yun-Fat then  Yun-Fat Chow or any ofyour other possible cultural interpretations are simply INCORRECT and against the rules. Now if we ared dealing with Most Commonly credited Nmae then CLT provides the answer , NOT SOME strange Community name which has no basis in data  or anything other some users iumagination. Community names are not supported by the RULES.

What is a shame Sugar, is that you have argued this for three years, you have saidm the same thing and i have saaid the same thing and nothing has changed, nor should it because anything else would resiult in a data mismatch, though it would salve your culturally sensitive moors. I thin its high time you simply try and understand what we are trying to do with the credits and then we can work towards a possible solution to what you want. We know how the asaians, i don't need a primer every minutes, I knew 5 years ago, I knew 30 years ago.; but that hs nothing to do with film credits and their appearance On Screen.

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I don't get all hung up on parsing, Sugar, I deal with the data and I do waht the data sayss to do, nothing more nothing, I don't interpret, I simply enter the data, you should try it, see the data, type the data. I have tried to ex-plain this so many different ways. I understand the Asian naming system possibly better than you, and you don't see me droning on about it. Are you upset because you are Mr. Chow? In which case I would ask you if you are going to credited be in a Hollywopod movie, the why allow yourself to be credited bass ackwards from everubody else in the film. He has THAT ability, Sugar.


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Don't know about everyone else but when I see film credits with Name 1, Name 2, Name 3 I enter them in the three available fields, Field 1, Field 2, Field 3. Unless it's proven with documentation that Name 1 & Name 2 both belong in Field 1 or that Name 2 & Name 3 both belong in Field 3. I don't fret much over it.

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Quoting Dr Pavlov:

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, I simply enter the data, you should try it, see the data, type the data. I have tried to ex-plain this so many different ways. I understand the Asian naming system possibly better than you, and you don't see me droning on about it.
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Do you see the 3 fields first/middle/last on your screen?

Stop bulls******* me and the rest of the community 

Do YOU see Family Name in use. Stop trying your BS argument, the only person who looks stupid is YOU.

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Quoting Dr Pavlov:

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you persist in wanting to interpret the data instead of just entering the data.
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Whenever you put a name from the screen credits in whatever order to the 3 fields first/middle/last you interpret data as well my friend. Is that so hard to understand? 

mad and Sugar;

As long as you want to persist with this idiocy be my guest. I have explained it to you numerous times, i don't give a crap about your interpretation it is WRONG and not what was intended. The answer is we are trying to capture an approximation of the appearance of the data ON Screen. As long as you want to whine about it, I will take a hard line even relative to the CLT, in which Ken has repeatedly said that we are after the most commonly crediyed names, "real" names are not necessarily going to be most commonly credited. When you give up the cultural whine then and only then am i willing to try and figure out some method to achoeve what you want to achieve, but for now the answer is KEEP YOUR CULTURAL interpretations LOCAL ONLY PERIOD. Get Iit...I hope so. I look forward to being able to take this dicussion in a different vein.

I don't understand your level of it seems almost a personall insult. The Program is trying to achieve something particular, you want to achieve something else which is incompatible with the Program. objective..you lose. You are and always will be free to have your local data dealt with in any you wish. This is all an excceedingly simple concept to grasp. I suggest you grasp it and get over it iwhatever your issue, so that we can see if there is any way to achieve what you want without breaking the program design and taking us yet another step towards IMDb-style irrelevancy. ImDb will allow you to manipulate their data Online any way you wish. Mad perhaps your turban is on too tight.

I am sorry you don't get it but so be it.

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For me, the source of the confusion and dissatisfaction is something like 10% user and 90% poor software and rules design.

Though I agree with all what you wrote, I think there is not really a poor software design, but just inadequate rules for this design. Having this design, to enter names as we see them on screen cannot work.