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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | . | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
| | Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
Oh yeah and don't forget a Upper/lower case filter for known names like:
LeVar Burton, Danny & Tommy DeVito, ...
and space/missing space filter for known names like
Robert De Niro (Robert Deniro, ...) You're going to put goodguy's NameVariants tool out of work! | | | | Hans |
| | Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
Oh yeah and don't forget a Upper/lower case filter for known names like:
LeVar Burton, Danny & Tommy DeVito, ...
Not just for known names. A very simple filter could standardize ALL mixed capitalization when a name is contributed. Please note the standardized common name doesn't need to use the actual most common capitalization, but just a standard to avoid data splintering, while the actual Credited As name stays intact. For instance: LeVar would become (after the filter) Levar [LeVar] DeVito => Devito [DeVito] Generally speaking: XxxYyyy => Xxxyyyy [XxxYyyy] | | | | -- Enry | | | | Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote:
Not just for known names. A very simple filter could standardize ALL mixed capitalization when a name is contributed. Please note the standardized common name doesn't need to use the actual most common capitalization, but just a standard to avoid data splintering, while the actual Credited As name stays intact.
For instance:
LeVar would become (after the filter) Levar [LeVar]
DeVito => Devito [DeVito]
Generally speaking:
XxxYyyy => Xxxyyyy [XxxYyyy] I don't see any need for this. The whole purpose of the "Common Name"/"Credited As" system was to allow linking of all profiles for an individual actor regardless of how they are credited in the film. "LeVar" and "Levar" are already linked, as are "DeVito" and "Devito". Nothing more needs to be done to make the program function as designed. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | . | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
| | Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
ALL CAPS CREDITS like in the movies, over and out for all redundant information 
easily done: just a parameter change in the online database, no prgram change needed. I have been thinking of that too, but didn't dare say it  | | | | -- Enry | | | | Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Why, Enry. Then we'll just find something else to niggle.  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | I just realized this filter should cut the number of variants for Tommy "Tiny" Lister Jr. in half. Let me see: Number of Lister name variants = InfinityInfinity / 2 = Aw Crap! | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
"LeVar" and "Levar" are already linked, as are "DeVito" and "Devito".
", jr.", ", Jr." and ", JR." were linked too, yet we have a standard ", Jr." capitalization now. | | | | -- Enry |
| | Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote:
", jr.", ", Jr." and ", JR." were linked too, yet we have a standard ", Jr." capitalization now. But those weren't linked with " jr.", " Jr." and " JR." or ", jr", ", Jr" and ", JR" or " jr", " Jr" and " JR" | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
| | Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | If I have common name = "DeVito" in a profile I am going to contribute, but the online cast has "Devito" (or vice versa), the system considers that a change to the profile. I would like the contribution system to understand they are the same and just automatically choose a standard capitalization, and leave the different variant as Credited As.
Ditto Mackenzie Lawrenz / MacKenzie Lawrenz. | | | | -- Enry | | | | Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote:
If I have common name = "DeVito" in a profile I am going to contribute, but the online cast has "Devito" (or vice versa), the system considers that a change to the profile. I would like the contribution system to understand they are the same and just automatically choose a standard capitalization, and leave the different variant as Credited As.
Ditto Mackenzie Lawrenz / MacKenzie Lawrenz. Enry the Online would consider that a change. Your local does NOT recognize the difference in case type V=v Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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"LeVar" and "Levar" are already linked, as are "DeVito" and "Devito".
", jr.", ", Jr." and ", JR." were linked too, yet we have a standard ", Jr." capitalization now. Your "Jr" examples were linked by using a "Common Name". "LeVar" and "Levar" are linked by the program WITHOUT a "Common Name". These two situations are not the same at all! | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yet, for the same movie, The Virgin Suicides, and most likely same credits for poor ol' Danny, we have three ways of contributing them to the main database and three ways of storing his last name in the database. Isn't that a tad confusing and unnecessary complication? You can find, for instance, Danny Devito as Dr. Horniker UPC: 8-711983-452046 Locality: Belgium and Danny DeVito as Dr. Horniker UPC: 8-711983-452046 Locality: Netherlands and Danny DeVito [Danny Devito] as Dr. Horniker UPC: 5-706102-353963 Locality: Denmark  | | | | -- Enry |
| | Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | There's more.
The program "links" locally, as you say, Devito and DeVito by changing capitals to the form it already finds in other local profiles.
This has a cost though.
Let's say you have movies with "DeVito", then you buy a movie where he is credited as "Devito" and you want to get that profile from the online. If the online profile just has "Danny Devito", then DVD Profiler will silently change that credit to just "Danny DeVito", which is not the way he was credited.
Correct me if I am wrong. | | | | -- Enry | | | | Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr. |
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