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I simply wanted to get it on the record, so to speak, how dividers supposedly solved the problem. Which I could then refute -- which I think I did.

Great. So now you're wasting people's time with questions to which you already know the answer. 

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Name two, please. In this forum.

Sure: Turning off the Splash screen and creating duplicate profiles.

Both of these can be accomplished already without any new features being coded.

KM

Yes, I'll have to eat the Splash screen one , but duplicate profiles is still a valid request. Yes, there are ways to get some of the effects of duplicate profiles, but at a loss of information. These deficiencies have been pointed out in the other thread.

When you have a flat tire a solution is not that you have donut spare but that the original tire needs repair or replacement. The donut spare is a temporary solution, not the final answer.

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Yes, I'll have to eat the Splash screen one , but duplicate profiles is still a valid request. Yes, there are ways to get some of the effects of duplicate profiles, but at a loss of information.

What loss of information? Aside from the UPC itself, there isn't any. And that UPC can be saved in the Notes field of the duplicated DVD, should you want to preserve it in that profile.

KM

If you want to take this to the Duplicates thread, fine. My point is that we may disagree about whether the Duplicates request is "solved" or not, but I don't think the thread demonstrates any unfamiliarity with the program.

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As far as those who don't want profiles at the title level... why cater to them?  What we have currently is less useful then title level profiles.

For the same reason you seem to feel we should cater to you.  What is an isn't useful depends on the user.  We have a few users who believe one profile for TV series sets is not useful.  We have quite a few who believe they are.  Who are we to tell them they are wrong?

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(And I resent that "can't possibly" crack.)

Gee, you must have an awfully thin skin if you think that was a crack.  It's no worse than some of your statements about the inadequacies of the program.  There's a learning curve for any program, and I don't believe that a few days is enough time to familiarize oneself with the nuances of the progam.

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Or manual profiles which are of course a lot of work and non-contributable.

It is not a lot of work anymore see this thread:
Profile cloning to Manual ID or to Disc-id

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Flag the profiles to clone. then from the DVD Profiler menu:
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And all the flaged profiles are cloned sequential in to the next available Manual Profile(s).

Wait a minute. What is this "Clone to Manual", not present in my menus?
I've seen mention of a "Clone plugin", probably related, but am unable to find same.

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Wait a minute. What is this "Clone to Manual", not present in my menus?
I've seen mention of a "Clone plugin", probably related, but am unable to find same.

This comes from a plugin that you have to load. I haven't done it yet, but I plan to try it. I have a need for this too.

Here's the post that describes the plugin and gives a link for it.

Many thanks. I entirely missed the fact that this was the clone plugin and link!

What this plugin does is put to rest our uneasiness about duplicate profiles screwing up the database.
It turns out that DVDP has no problem with duplicate profiles -- in a sense: these have a fictional UPC to make them unique.

So, instead of (or in addition to) a plugin, the base product should lift the restriction on entering a duplicate profile into the database. That would be the more natural method most users would want to use, IMO. Duplicates entered in this way should be given fictional numbers like this plugin does -- or better, use the same UPC as the original with a qualifying character to make them unique.

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Wait a minute. What is this "Clone to Manual", not present in my menus?
I've seen mention of a "Clone plugin", probably related, but am unable to find same.

This comes from a plugin that you have to load. I haven't done it yet, but I plan to try it. I have a need for this too.

Here's the post that describes the plugin and gives a link for it.

Many thanks. I entirely missed the fact that this was the clone plugin and link!

What this plugin does is put to rest our uneasiness about duplicate profiles screwing up the database.
It turns out that DVDP has no problem with duplicate profiles -- in a sense: these have a fictional UPC to make them unique.

So, instead of (or in addition to) a plugin, the base product should lift the restriction on entering a duplicate profile into the database. That would be the more natural method most users would want to use, IMO. Duplicates entered in this way should be given fictional numbers like this plugin does -- or better, use the same UPC as the original with a qualifying character to make them unique.

All I can do is shake my head.

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For the same reason you seem to feel we should cater to you.  What is an isn't useful depends on the user.  We have a few users who believe one profile for TV series sets is not useful.  We have quite a few who believe they are.  Who are we to tell them they are wrong?

If they didn't want to use the functionality then they wouldn't have to do so.  IMO it's absurd to not implement functionality because some people don't like it.

Not saying you're wrong but it can fragment the submission base, those that like it one way will contribute it that way, those that like it the other, well you can fill in the rest.

Ultimately it means that two people do the work instead of one to get the data in the format both 'sides' want.

Of course catering to a single way could put some off contributing at all...

Well, we're already catering to a single approach at the moment.  :-)  People are already breaking these multititle discs into manual profiles to ger around the current limitations of the software.

But I don't think we need to worry too much that people wouldn't use it if it were available.  It would increase the functionality of the program immensely. 

For those few who are determined to go their own way regardless... they already can.  There's plenty of room for entering data as we see fit and people are already going to take advantage of that.  The question to me is "Which approach adds the most value to the software and the users?"  I think in this case it's pretty obvious.