The more I think about this the more I like it.  Except not for the reason it was originally requested.  IMO, it would be helpful to be able to attach notes at the actor level that would be contributable. 

We've got massive threads on birth years, various names, etc...  Searching the forums for every single actor we're entering is simply not practical.  It would be simpler for all concerned if notes could be attached to the actors themselves so that it could be directly accessed during profile creation/maintenance.  Entry could be done via the website and it could be limited to certain users when there actually IS a consensus.

That text could be italicized or bolded to distinguish it from any local notes (To satisfy the original request) and displayed in the same UI.  The "actor contribution notes" would simply not be editable locally.

Quoting skipnet50:

Quote:
Snark:

Why do we need to turn Profiler into a copy of something that already exists?

Skip

What on earth on you talking about now Skip?

Quoting skipnet50:

Quote:
You want actor notes that are contributable to contain data such as birthdays, bios and so forth. Such data is available elsewhere, why must we duplicate the concept. can profiler not be its own program? I don't object to actor notes being personal, I simply don't understand why we need to become a copy of other sources, not to mention that such data really has very little to do with DVDs, but more to do with Movies.

Skip

I thought I made that plain Skip. 

Quoting Snark:

Quote:
We've got massive threads on birth years, various names, etc...  Searching the forums for every single actor we're entering is simply not practical.  It would be simpler for all concerned if notes could be attached to the actors themselves so that it could be directly accessed during profile creation/maintenance.  Entry could be done via the website and it could be limited to certain users when there actually IS a consensus.

It's not about movies.  It's about simplifying the contribution process and making it more accurate according to the rules.

I didn't suggest that birthdays, bios, etc be contributable.  If someone wants to be able to put it in locally then more power to 'em.

I would only like to see things that directly pertain to the contribution process to be contributed.  (Birth years, name issues, etc.)

Quoting skipnet50:

Quote:
Ah, Ok, now I am trying to visualize how this would be different from where we are now. Maybe i need my coffee.

Are you talking about a more direct download of Contribution Notes, so that we would have the supporting documentation more easily accessible.

Skip

In a sense, yeah.  Except at the actor level instead of the profile level.  There are plenty of threads with actor notes in the contribution forum and with the search being what it is they are not always easy to find.  (Even going through google is awkward)

Now that you bring it up, a direct download of contribution notes would be nice as well.

They wouldn't even necessarily need to live client side.  DVDProfiler could grab them from Invelos as needed during the data entry process.  Having the stuff in front of people while they work would go a long way towards making this simply.

I'll agree with surfeur's arguement there, this could be very risky

Skip

Snark:

Perhaps I am misunderstanding you. But my fear is that we already have quite a few users who will vote YES to almost anything and exercise very little critical analysis of what is or is not correct. Thus I am concerned that this could lay the groundwork for turning the Online into a mess. I think PERHAPS there is some merit here and needs to cussed, discussed and re-cussed a bit, but as you describe it right now it seems very risky, simply due to weaknesses inherentt in the vote system.

Skip

Quoting Unicus69:

Quote:
I think I see what Snark is after and I can also see why it shouldn't be editable information.  Let's take BY information, as an example...

For actor Kenny Baker (1912), the following information would be included but not editable:
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0048653/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Baker_(entertainer)

Once documentation is established, and accepted, there should be no reason to change it.  I am not sure how this type of data would not match what someone wanted as it's sole purpose is to document the proper BY and make it easier to contribute.

This is typically the kind of unaesthetic technical data I feared, that I certainly don't want to appear on a layout that I use. Imagine that under the photo of Kidman in the example that I gave some posts above... Quite as horrible as spelling mistakes... If somebody wants that sort of useless data, good for them, but let to the others the possibility to send it to the recycle bin.

Quoting Unicus69:

Quote:
I think I see what Snark is after and I can also see why it shouldn't be editable information.  Let's take BY information, as an example...

For actor Kenny Baker (1912), the following information would be included but not editable:
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0048653/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Baker_(entertainer)

Once documentation is established, and accepted, there should be no reason to change it.  I am not sure how this type of data would not match what someone wanted as it's sole purpose is to document the proper BY and make it easier to contribute.

But of course you should be able to change it Unicus... what if for whatever reason those links change or the site/page used is no longer there?... there has to be a way to change it whenever there needs to be a way to update it. Of course as for changing/deleting it locally only I don't personally see a reason to have/want too (and I wouldn't want to personally)... but at the same time I see no reason to take away the ability to do so if someone does have a reason... or just wants to change or remove it locally... not like it still wouldn't be online to get it again if need be.