May I remind all that this is a feature request forum. Primarily for the DVDp desktop version, and that is what the OP proposed. What I added was a suggestion that perhaps we could better use a adaptation on the rules on Easter Eggs rather than yet another tick box. Then we don't have to wait for v3.8.3, 3.9.0 or 4.0, whatever Ken decides.

I just went out for a few hours shopping and to my surprise if not disgust the thread has already deteriorated beyond belief.

Again, this is a feature request forum. Banging on 'going by the rules' may be valid in the contribution forum but is not a constructive approach here in my opinion. Neither is flaming, just count to 10 (or 1000 if you need a bit more time to cool down... )

Pete (addicted2dvd) made the, in itself, valid point that a post- (or mid-) closing credit scene will be played if you do not touch any button on the remote control. So he considers it part of the main feature. I myself disagree in the sense that when the closing credits start it is time to leave the cinema, go to the toilet, or whatever. In other words the film ended. It is not coincidental that 'in the old days' a text displaying 'The End' was shown, before the closing credits, if any.
Similarly, at the very first seconds of a movie some studios show logo sequences like Orion's winged horse, 20th C.Fox monument-like name or Paramount's mountain with flying stars. To me, the movie really starts after these ego-satisfying sequences. But no doubt, others will see it as part of the movie.
But I concede that it is, like Pete's view, an opinion about when the feature starts or ends. To each his own, no harm done.

I'd like to get back to the original issue. With post- or mid- closing credit scenes people rarely see them unless it is pointed out there is something to wait for (or as I do, fast forward). It is simply in too few movies to assume it'll always be there (which is, BTW, an argument against a tick box).

Just for clarities sake, closing credit 'illuminations' like outtakes are not the scenes I think of here. I think of Marvel's additions that hint to other movies, Constantine's surprise tombstone scene and the like.

What could be a neat way to make a mark in/with the DVDp data we record? If you don't like a tick box or a Easter Egg rule modification, what DO you prefer?

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I understand why you edited them, but IMO you should have left them.

I will not edit my posts again. But, thanks to Jimmy S, Kulju and Addicted2DVD  and I am able to get most, if not all, of what I said in my 3 edited posts because my statements were quoted by them:

My first post:

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These could be contributed as Outtakes per rules: "Footage, generally mistakes, captured during filming, generally humorous. Occasionally, outtakes are scripted (e.g. animated outtakes)."

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Then why wouldn't that qualify as a deleted/extended scene?

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If it is after the credits then it isn't incorporated into the main feature.

But, there really isn't any way to really assess the situation without owning the DVD so I am dropping the topic.

If anyone sees anything deceitful or inappropriate in them - please let me know. You will also note that my memory of what I said was in fact quite accurate:

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...I also don't know what Kathy previously posted as she's edited them all...

I based my responses on the OP. Although not verbatim here's the gist of what I said.

It was my opinion that Outtakes might be an appropriate place to put this type of data. I also posted the rules to explain my rationale.

I then commented, based on Jimmy and Pete's posts, that maybe Deleted Scenes would also be a place for this data.

But, after re-reading the OP again, I decided that the question was too vague for me to decide what should be done.

I did not comment on anything that Skip said until he chose to call me out. The insulting remarks of Skip, and the lies he has said about me, I've addressed in another post.

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You got called out for good reason. I will say follow the rules. don't half read then pretend you know the answer. Having the upc will not change anything on this one. Just admit you are wrong and apologize for your outrageous remarks. You've been caught.

Skip,

Since I was able to get my posts back and nothing you posted about me is true. I expect you to admit that you are wrong and I want a formal apology for your outrageous remarks. You've been caught.

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I get it Kathy is allowed by invelos to say anything she wishes to or about another user.

Why do you have to go that way again... You are able to disagree with someone without going in an insult throwing contest. Just yesterday we had a small disagreement and you have reacted perfectly and in a mature way. You have no idea how I prefer that visage of you that we see so rarely than the other one where you go in "raving personal attack" mode.

Just take me and Pete as exemple, we have the same point that you have without going aggressive about it.

and on-topic my point have not change this had no reason or utility to be tracked, the note area is there for those things. We don't need a selectable box for something who is part of the film... what is the next stage? asking a section to note the exact time when someone get naked in a movie

I don't like the checkbox as described, it will open more loopholes and call me cynical but i have learned that we have users who seem to look for loopholes they can ,create.  Does it need to be addressed, maybe,...what's the best way. Perhaps a check box in a new section called Film Details, is a checkbox sufficient, I suspect not, I think we might need something with s bit more descriptive ability than a checkbox provides not sure yet.

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..., I think we might need something with s bit more descriptive ability than a checkbox provides not sure yet.

That was actually my reason to suggest something else than a tick box.

Kulju,

I am rather pragmatic about running time. I can live with a definition like what the player shows for the actual length of the main feature playing.

On running time, it is important for me to know whether a film I want to see makes for a middle of the night going to bed or a more decent time. I really don't care much about a minute more or less. But mind, whenever contributing I try to be accurate.

What I expressed is what in my personal experience (call it feeling) is the beginning and the end of a film. That is the story the director wanted to tell. I have yet to hear of a director saying Paramount's mountain with stars is the most important part of the story (Paramount's CEO might disagree, though). Credits, however beautifully done, are just administration papers -- going to extremes on Pixar movies with 'production babies'. And I think they meant newborns, not Playmates 

Excellent points. Kulju, I don't think a tick box goes far enough and for this purpose certainly not in Disc Features. How to accommodate it and where. There is certainly a difference between let's say pixar outtakes, and marvel endings.

We have a rule section called Film Details  a natural home for this...whatever it is. A checkbox for outtakes ala  pixar is fine. But marvel is not an outtake or a deleted scene...so what is it, if we are going to try a checkbox.