Tim:

Pete has far more background than you, stop your imperious pontificating. he is right. You are not the Caesar of the Rules, you are being argumentative, combative and insulting to Pete. Please cease.

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Actually, I would like to submit as Tim has suggested, namely:
box set > season set > individual disc

The problem is that I'm afraid with the current DVDP version, I can't do it. I don't have neither a UPC or disc ID for the season boxes to submit them with. If anyone has a suggestion how to solve that issue, I'd gladly submit them as Tim suggested because that's also the way I prefer it.

Quoting Taro:

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Actually, I would like to submit as Tim has suggested, namely:
box set > season set > individual disc

The problem is that I'm afraid with the current DVDP version, I can't do it. I don't have neither a UPC or disc ID for the season boxes to submit them with. If anyone has a suggestion how to solve that issue, I'd gladly submit them as Tim suggested because that's also the way I prefer it.

As I said... either way of doing it is allowed by the rules. So I leave that decision up to you.

But will tell you my way of doing it and why I personally feel it is better.

I use disc level because...

1. It gives us more accurate detail what is on each disc.
2. The handling of the cast and crew lists are easier since the info is for that very disc instead of grouped to a whole season under 1 profile
3. You can track your watched status much easier at disc level. As you can mark each disc as watched as you watch them instead of waiting till you watch the entire series.

But as I said... that is my line of thinking and my way of doing things. Your opinion may differ.

Hate to be nilly nitpick here but I think everyone is missing a subtle wording that effects the quoted rule

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Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile.

notice the part I bolded. It says multiple complete tv series. and refers to this as rare. Well I don't think complete season sets are all that rare. And in the US a Series is the run of all seasons where as in the UK and I think most of Europe the word series is equivalent to a US Season. So what does this all mean. It means that the quoted rule doesn't even apply because its a box set of only one Series. (The rules are written by a US company I think its only safe to assume, not that assumptions are ever safe, that the use of Series refers to the US definition)

to further support this, the tv series on DVD rules start off with

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TV Series on DVD come in 2 separate types:

    * Complete Series/Season sets
    * Anthologies of Episodes that do not form a complete series or season.

This set in question fits into the first type listed, yet you are then saying it also fits into the rare case noted below? 

All that said, I think the logical thing to do is a parent box set and each disc profiled by disc ID. Why?

1) its more complete. every disc gets profiles
2) those that want a season profile in the hierarchy can easily add
  a) a manual profile for each season or
  b) download the already existing season profile from the individual release
3) the disc ID's are most likely the same as for the individual season sets so profiles by disc id would already exist and the first disc's disc ID wouldn't be able to be used for the season profile anyway.

-Agrare

Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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Quoting Taro:

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Actually, I would like to submit as Tim has suggested, namely:
box set > season set > individual disc

The problem is that I'm afraid with the current DVDP version, I can't do it. I don't have neither a UPC or disc ID for the season boxes to submit them with. If anyone has a suggestion how to solve that issue, I'd gladly submit them as Tim suggested because that's also the way I prefer it.

As I said... either way of doing it is allowed by the rules. So I leave that decision up to you.

But will tell you my way of doing it and why I personally feel it is better.

I use disc level because...

1. It gives us more accurate detail what is on each disc.
2. The handling of the cast and crew lists are easier since the info is for that very disc instead of grouped to a whole season under 1 profile
3. You can track your watched status much easier at disc level. As you can mark each disc as watched as you watch them instead of waiting till you watch the entire series.

But as I said... that is my line of thinking and my way of doing things. Your opinion may differ.

I have to agree with you on that. If Box > Season > Disc is not possible, then I also prefer a Box > Disc alternative, for the exact same reasons you quoted (I also think it's very useful to be able to set a watched date per disc).

Moreover, it would take minimal effort for users to locally insert season profiles and change the box set links locally.

But that's just my opinion and the way I see it, the rules leave it up to us to decide.

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Yes, due to the unfortunate way it's worded, you can try to dismiss this particular rule as "not mandatory". If that was the intent, though, there'd be no point in having it there. We've come to that same conclusion time and time again. It's very simple: if the question "how do we deal with multi-season sets?" arises, I can't help noticing that the rules specifically answer that question. Instead of dismissing what the rules say as "not mandatory" and inventing a different solution myself, I'm actually glad the rules offer an answer to my question, and I have no reason whatsoever to ignore it.

You see no point because you are looking at that rule in the wrong context.  That rule was written BEFORE we were allowed to create child profiles for TV Series sets.  Because we were not allowed to do that, we needed a rule that allowed it for multi-season sets.

You may not like it, but words have meaning.  The fact that the rule uses the word 'can' means it is not mandatory.  You may not see a reason to ignore it but, in this case, I do.  The db is far better served with multiple child profiles, by disc ID, than it is by a few season profiles.

Quoting Taro:

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Actually, I would like to submit as Tim has suggested, namely:
box set > season set > individual disc

The problem is that I'm afraid with the current DVDP version, I can't do it. I don't have neither a UPC or disc ID for the season boxes to submit them with. If anyone has a suggestion how to solve that issue, I'd gladly submit them as Tim suggested because that's also the way I prefer it.

Taro:

Based on what I have seen for the Complete series, I am willing to bet that you will not be ablre to do Seasons. I think your configuration is going to be similar to I Love lucy, which because of the way it was physically arranged made Season setup impossible. Assigning Disc ID to Season One, etc, I think you wiill find to be nice theory that in reality is impractical at the very best. If it uis configured as I think it will be, then I love Lucy is the best answer. We can hope it is set up like TZ was, or The Andy Griffith Show, but I doubt it.

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