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Does this result in a "producer" credit?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I can't apologize as long as global changes continue to be made based on a single copy which is owned, or notes which claim research but refuse to add documentation essentially saying this right because he says it is. I find that unconscionable and very destructive to the Online since we know that is an incorrect assumption and it is directly connected to this thread as he was making changes to at least TWO foreign copies of the movie based upon the ONE that he owns.


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Based on the data and that there is NO copyright for Howard W. Koch Productions, I couldn't disagree with Rho's assumption more. Just because a website published currently call a credit a Production Company does not make it one. the data doesn't support the claim and we take the data from the disc not some website which has NO affiliation to the alleged company.

The data comes directly from the disc. The production company credit is prominently shown in the opening credits. The Oscar database is only used for confirmation.
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You are incorrect, Rho, you are making an assumption and trying to back it up with a website which in and of itself does NOT provide any documentation, kind of like some of users. The movie was made long before there was an internet as a public resource. If you can find a Copyright for Howard W. Koch Productions then you have something , but your assumptin is not supported...BTW you won't find such documentation because it is not a Production Company, I've looked trying to verify it and i can't find anything which presents solid documentation, I find a lot of people and some other sites making assumptions.

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In this case, you would not give him a producer credit.
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Thank you, gerri

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You are incorrect, Rho, you are making an assumption

Yes, I assume that the credits presented in the film are not there by accident. The "Paramount Pictures presents a Howard W. Koch production" is a company credit crediting the distribution company as well as the production company. Therefore "Howard W. Koch" is the credited production company.

BTW it has nothing at all to do with copyright as you want to suggest repeatedly.
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There is a difference between A Howard W. Koch Production (there is no indication of Company here, just an indication of some type of involvement of someone, and that involvement is unclearwhich is why we don't use it) and Howard W. Koch productions, on indicates a clear Production Company the other indicates nothing beyond your ASSUMPTION.

Keep your assumptions where they belong, Rho, LOCALLY. The program has no way to account for A Howard W. Koch Production, whatever you want to do with it locally is up to YOU.

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I am not sure what we are discussing here, it's definitely not a producer.

But if it said a Paramount production etc. we would have a production company credit without any mention of company either. How is this any different. We go with what is on the screen. Just because it appears to be a name is surely breaking the as credited rule and allowing for interpretation.

But even if we go for an external source we even find that what we can agrees it's a production company.

IMO it could be submitted as a company taken from the credits without any further documentation but if what is available supports the fact that it is indeed a production company in the abscence of any other evidence I would be comfortable with a yes vote.
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