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Uncredited or Credited As?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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And I may have to reconsider even bothering to discuss anything with you in the future. You've obviously no idea how to discuss things on an adult level and so constantly resort to the childish behaviour of belittling the opinion of anyone who disagrees with you.
When you choose to grow up and act like a responsible adult, maybe you can become a productive part of this community. Until then I'm going to leave you to your sad, little fantasy world. 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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North:

The point that you misws, is yourself. I never said that it had to be done THIS way or THAT way. I said how I do it and WHY. And that it was how I do it HERE and it wasn't going to change, I also said I would not vote NO to either. I even said that I could understand the logic of both methods, even though I think mine is the more logical of the two. It was who chose to pick an argument with me over it, not I you. YOU, nor anyone, will NOT tell me how to do things here, that is not your business. Thank you, as usual you read and clearly misunderstood, and chose to pick an argument.

You presented your argument as if yoiu were arguing for your method for Contribution , which I did not do, but when you did so, I said I am not buying your imaginary data logic, which I am entitled to do.

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I am trying to figure out the two sides here and can't seem to do so.  Can someone explain to me why 'Robin Williams [Marty Fromage] as Shakes the Clown', or any other 'credited as' credit, is o.k. but 'Anthony Dawson [?] as Ernst Blofeld' is not?

Is it because the credit is a question mark?  It can't be because the person's name isn't credited as that is the whole reason we were given the 'credited as' system...for cases where the person is not credited with their usual name.

So, please, help me understand the issue here. 
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To be honest, Unicus, neither can I because I view it as a personal preference issue.

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Quoting skipnet50:
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To be honest, Unicus, neither can I because I view it as a personal preference issue.

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Then to quote the great skipnet50, "keep your personal preferences local"!

And if you really can't make up your mind how this should be done, you should back off a bit in the tone of your posts in the mater.

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Is this situation so much different than what is discussed and decided by Ken Cole in this thread?
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Is this situation so much different than what is discussed and decided by Ken Cole in this thread?

No.
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Is this situation so much different than what is discussed and decided by Ken Cole in this thread?

It's not, no. Obviously, the same approach (use "credited as") should be applied here.
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If the joke credit for fictional actress "Ida Flammerbaum" playing Herself translates to

"Sandra Bullock [Ida Flammenbaum] as Herself is correct",

even if Sandra Bullock is not at all mentioned in the credits (but it can be documented),


then I daresay that the credit for the "?" entity playing a certain role should translate to

Actor's Name  [?]  as  Role

as long as you can document that Actor actually plays that role.
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If the joke credit for fictional actress "Ida Flammerbaum" playing Herself translates to

"Sandra Bullock [Ida Flammenbaum] as Herself is correct",

even if Sandra Bullock is not at all mentioned in the credits (but it can be documented),


then I daresay that the credit for the "?" entity playing a certain role should translate to

Actor's Name  [?]  as  Role

as long as you can document that Actor actually plays that role.


Excactly. Only problem I see is that NO proof has been produced to back up this assumption thusfar.
Linking a person to a "?" credit can surely only be done within the confinements of the current movie as the "?" would be meaningless in a greater scope. Since there is no direct evidence (thusfar) of a link between actor and ? it is not possible to link the role to an actor. It's really as simple as an equasion with 2 unknown variables.
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Quoting EnryWiki:
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If the joke credit for fictional actress "Ida Flammerbaum" playing Herself translates to

"Sandra Bullock [Ida Flammenbaum] as Herself is correct",

even if Sandra Bullock is not at all mentioned in the credits (but it can be documented),


then I daresay that the credit for the "?" entity playing a certain role should translate to

Actor's Name  [?]  as  Role

as long as you can document that Actor actually plays that role.


Excactly.


So far, so good. 

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Only problem I see is that NO proof has been produced to back up this assumption thusfar.
Linking a person to a "?" credit can surely only be done within the confinements of the current movie as the "?" would be meaningless in a greater scope. Since there is no direct evidence (thusfar) of a link between actor and ? it is not possible to link the role to an actor. It's really as simple as an equasion with 2 unknown variables.


What about the references provided by ninehours, like
http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/bond-villains/anthony-dawson2
and others?
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Quoting ninehours:
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I am having a problem with the profile for From Russia With Love, there is a credit for the character of Ernst Blofeld

now there are two actor who are in the existing profile
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Anthony Dawson as Ernst Stavros Blofeld (uncredited)
Eric Pohlmann as Ernst Stavros Blofeld (voice, uncredited)

have found some links confirming Eric Pohlmann was the voice of Blofeld have not look for Anthony Dawson yet but my question is should they remain as "Uncredited" or should i use the "Credited As"
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Anthony Dawson [?] as Ernst Blofeld
Eric Pohlmann [?] as Ernst Blofeld (voice)



Actually it should be:

Anthony Dawson [?] as Ernst Blofeld
Eric Pohlman as Voice of Ernst Blofeld (voice)(uncredited)
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I disagree, Hal and it certainly won't be done that way here, it's not logical, in my view.

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Quoting hal9g:
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Actually it should be:

Anthony Dawson [?] as Ernst Blofeld
Eric Pohlman as Voice of Ernst Blofeld (voice)(uncredited)

Why?
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Actually it should be:

Anthony Dawson [?] as Ernst Blofeld
Eric Pohlman as Voice of Ernst Blofeld (voice)(uncredited)

Why not:
Eric Pohlman [?] as Ernst Blofeld (voice)
Anthony Dawson as Ernst Blofeld (uncredited)

Therefore I would prefer:
Anthony Dawson [?] as Ernst Blofeld
Eric Pohlman [?] as Ernst Blofeld (voice)

This would give both the same weight.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributortweeter
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It occurs to me that if either Dawson or Pohlmann is presented as the Common name to the [?] the Uncredited flag must also be set:

Anthony Dawson [?] as Ernst Blofeld (uncredited)

-or-

Eric Pohlman [?] as Ernst Blofeld (voice, uncredited)

Which i think would simply confuse things because only a part of the credit is Uncredited and it's in the middle of the standard cast.

This makes me prefer even more that the Uncredited be appended to the cast and leave the '?' alone.
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