Trust me, I am against Open Creds enough, that IF I could figure out an alternative, which was both workable and would eliminate the problems in the forums I would do so, if someone can give me a detailed response that meets the criteria of being workable AND eliminate the scrapping in the forums...I am all ears. But i don't think there is one, in almost Five years i haven't figured oneout and certainly not for lack of trying. I am listening and hoping someone can come up with something...but after working at it as long as I have...I am hopeful but doubtful.

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How far down do you want to be able to drill, Unicus. What is Art and so forth. What about Set Deco0, or any of the gazillion other Awards categories.

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Maybe I am missing something, but how does a discussion of solutions change the ability to vote in the poll? 

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Maybe I am missing something, but how does a discussion of solutions change the ability to vote in the poll? 

I don't believe that I said that it changed the ability to vote in the poll, did I?

I simply asked that solutions be discussed elsewhere as this was not the original intent of this poll, and I think I might have an inkling about what the original intent was.

You guys are unbelievable.  I nicely ask that the thread be kept on topic, and I get a bunch of crap in return.

Enjoy yourselves! 

No, hal, I don't think what you are asking is rational. As I said you don't want it cluttered with logic, which you apparently can't address. I do sympathize with you on that, i have had these same arguments with myself on this matter for near five years now, and I can't find a more viable answer.

I am all ears for any answer here or somewhere else and I really do hope that someone will posit something, that I can say WOW! great idea. (though that could be bad, i remember the BY idea which I still think was inspiration on your part but unfortunately in real life, it needs some fine tuning).

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Quoting hal9g:

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You guys are unbelievable.  I nicely ask that the thread be kept on topic, and I get a bunch of crap in return.

Enjoy yourselves! 

Holy overreaction Batman! 

I am not sure why you overreacted the way you did, but you are acting like threads going off topic is a new thing.  Yes, you asked a simple yes or no question...but that question dealt with one solution to the current crew problem.  Did you honestly think people would just answer, one way or the other, and be done with it?  I'm sorry, but asking people to take the discussion, sparked by your poll question, to a new thread is just unrealistic.  In fact, when viewed in that light, any discussion of a solution is right on topic...JMHO. 

I think I am going to be an outcast here, but here goes.

I think we need less than what we have.  I do agree that there should be "open credits" somehow for the local database, but for the online, I think only the major players in crew credits.

We need a way of entering credits that make sense without the "literal" arguments that we have.

Sorry Hal, but I have to vote against open credits.

I personally don't care who the production accountant was, or the set painter, or the driver for actor x or the personal assistant to the personal assistant to the assistant of sub actor y...

I am sure that there are people that do care, but to enter and vote on said contributions would be a nightmare.

On a side note, if we have open credits for local, maybe a way to share profiles between users easily (peer sharing) for those credits entered outside what is accepted in the online.