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Adding Rating on an Unrated DVD (that also includes the rated version) |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | That's fine, then how did others get through (yes, even some US profiles)?
Here's what I've found so far:
- Death Race
- Doomsday
- Miami Vice (HD DVD)
- You Don't Mess with the Zohan
I'm a little surprised this hasn't come up before... | | | | Last edited: by The Movieman |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | Then those titles should have the ratings details removed. It could have been a mistake on the voters, they could have miss that. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's called human mistakes, Movieman. We all make them.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:
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Quoting northbloke:
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My apologies. I'm still not used to the new fields.
If the details are from a valid source, then I see no reason not to - it's information directly related to the content of the disc.
I was one of the no voters. My reason for the no vote was that, by definition, there can't be rating details for a film that is unrated.
But there can be Unicus... remember? we talked about this before... and I even showed you this picture as proof:
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Yea, I remember now.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
It's called human mistakes, Movieman. We all make them.
Skip Even you???  |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 171 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would like to see the Rating Details on unrated DVDs and BluRays, even if they are for the theatrical rating.
From what I understand in the U.S., the rating is given by the MPAA. If even one scene is changed from the version they rated, the DVD or BluRay will become unrated. So, the reasons for the theatrical rating may no longer be completely accurate, but the rating description will still be somewhat accurate. I can use this information to determine whether a movie might be appropriate for my teenage son.
I understand the rules as they are currently stated and they don't allow this. But, I think this could be useful information. Maybe this needs to go into a Feature Request. Capture the Theatrical Rating and it's Description along with the DVD/BR rating. |
| | Registered: December 3, 2008 |  Posts: 186 |
| | Posted: | | | | You guys think you have it easy with Rating? In Canada we have to consider up to 3 rating system: USA, Canada and Canada(Quebec) - Quebec being the equivalent of a State in the US- Can you imagine if all 52 States and territories were to use a different rating system.. Dear Lord, where would we be! I got slapped on the pipi a few times by submitting in Canada "N/R" with the USA warning, the argument I got was valid though, this is 'not the Canadian' rating... so I bowed down and took it out haha... Oh, example: South Park: the Complete Third Season is rated 18A in Canada.. Season 6, 14A and N/R in the USA.. hehe . and I thought that South Park, the older they got, the more 'crude' they were becoming... Eric EDIT: My bad.. I went on the Canadian board of movie accreditation and ... each of the Provinces (Canada) has their own rating system, however, they will be using the canadian Version of MPAA.. so South Park can be 18A in Ontario and 14A in Manitoba.... 13+ in Quebec... All that to say, it is quite 'fun'..  | | | | E | | | | Last edited: by Lostmule |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting jgilligan: Quote:
I would like to see the Rating Details on unrated DVDs and BluRays, even if they are for the theatrical rating.
From what I understand in the U.S., the rating is given by the MPAA. If even one scene is changed from the version they rated, the DVD or BluRay will become unrated. So, the reasons for the theatrical rating may no longer be completely accurate, but the rating description will still be somewhat accurate. I can use this information to determine whether a movie might be appropriate for my teenage son.
I understand the rules as they are currently stated and they don't allow this. But, I think this could be useful information. Maybe this needs to go into a Feature Request. Capture the Theatrical Rating and it's Description along with the DVD/BR rating. If a DVD or BD title is NOT RATED (NR), it means it was not rated by the MPAA...period. NR titles should not have any Rating Details. If you wish to have Rating Details to determine whether a movie might be appropriate for your teenage son , then you should purchase the Rated Theatrical Release version of the title if one is available. Otherwise, any rating details added to a NOT RATED (NR) title should be kept local only. This is only my opinion of course. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with 8ballmax here, if a DVD is NR , even if it has an R-rated version on it too, we should not add any rating details. NR is always "higher" to R-rating. of course, also only my opinion  greetings Donnie | | | | www.tvmaze.com |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd generally agree with no rating description for unrated films. However, for examples such as those given by Addicted, they can have their own description (maybe the relevant ompanies wanted to give an idea regarding the content). In those cases I would add it. |
| | Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting jgilligan: Quote:
I would like to see the Rating Details on unrated DVDs and BluRays, even if they are for the theatrical rating.
From what I understand in the U.S., the rating is given by the MPAA. If even one scene is changed from the version they rated, the DVD or BluRay will become unrated. So, the reasons for the theatrical rating may no longer be completely accurate, but the rating description will still be somewhat accurate. I can use this information to determine whether a movie might be appropriate for my teenage son.
I understand the rules as they are currently stated and they don't allow this. But, I think this could be useful information. Maybe this needs to go into a Feature Request. Capture the Theatrical Rating and it's Description along with the DVD/BR rating. I had no issue getting the rating details for Alien Vs. Predator unrated 2-disc approved in Nov. The disc has the pg-13 cut as well, and has the rating details for that printed on the back cover. Not a single no vote on that one. I agree that 99.99% of the time, unrated just means it wasn't re-submited to the MPAA (cuz that costs money each time) and is juts a marketing tool. Most unrated discs are just a few seconds or minutes longer, and the extra footage usually wouldn't change the original rating anyway. I'm of the opinion that if the rated version is on the disc along with the unrated, and the rating deatils for the rated version are on the cover, they should be included with the profile. For all others, I like to have details for everything and will find the RD and keep them local. Besides Dawn of the Dead 04 (and even that one is questionable if it would've been NC-17 instead of R, but it is substantially longer/gorier), what unrated movie would be rated different if submitted to the MPAA? Maybe a few PG-13's would go to R for an extra F-bomb (you can rate these yourself, one F in a non-sexual context is O.K. for PG-13. The second F bomb = R, sexual or not! One F in sexual is still R, this includes F yourself, F your {whatever}). There's also the rare case of the "unrated for XXXXXXX" box on some dvds (Havoc). I think everyone agreed to include those since they are printed on the cover. A simple new rule, "if it's on the box it belongs in the profile", is in order. If not on the box, keep it local. | | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
| | Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | ^ I agree but it seems the majority of others do not, thus these details are being removed... |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
^ I agree but it seems the majority of others do not, thus these details are being removed... As well they should be . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
I'd generally agree with no rating description for unrated films. However, for examples such as those given by Addicted, they can have their own description (maybe the relevant ompanies wanted to give an idea regarding the content). In those cases I would add it. I had forgotten about this situation, but I agree. If it says unrated and includes details, they should be entered. But the rules for ratings clearly tell us that we are to use NR if there is an unrated version of the film on the disc. If we can't use the original rating, we shouldn't use the original rating details either. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
A simple new rule, "if it's on the box it belongs in the profile", is in order. If not on the box, keep it local. That wouldn't work as it would stop us from using 2 of the 3 sources Ken wanted us to use. (official site such as filmratings.com & Rating page displayed on-screen) So if we said if it is not on the box to keep it local then you would have rules contradicting themselves. Now if you mean an exception for unrated releases (with rated version included) only... that is a different story. But as of right now I still would agree with the others that said it don't belong if we have Unrated as the rating. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
Quoting TheMovieman:
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^ I agree but it seems the majority of others do not, thus these details are being removed...
As well they should be . Thank you, I know since I'm doing some of the removing. |
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