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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCorne
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But the Rules clearly indicate the order of importance. The Theatrical Release Studio should be entered first. New Line Cinema is credited both textual and as logo (at the beginning). The Rules don't disapprove a studio logo as source.
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So again, as usual, T!M is not following the rules and doing what he likes as usual.

That seems to be your usual response when people don't agree with you - apparently it's even my fault if the majority of the voters on your own poll don't agree with you. 
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Poll is opinion, Contribution is not done by poll, Our studio expert has explained why. And the rules tell me to follow that advice: credits only.

No, the rules tell you to enter the theatrical release studio in the first field.
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Poll is opinion, Contribution is not done by poll

Even if it is your poll? 
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The rules explicitly don't tell us to enter the studios in the order that they appear on-screen. Instead, they tell us to list the theatrical release studio first, and the production company second. Well, "New Line Cinema" is the theatrical release studio, and "New Line Productions" is the production company. I'm glad to see this is supported by the poll results.


Well, you have it half right.  You read the rule correctly, but you are ignoring the credit.  Based on the credits from the DVD which, as we all know is the authoritative source for all data, the theatrical release studio for THIS film is 'New Line Productions' and the production company is 'New Line Cinema'.  Neither your opinion nor the poll will change that fact.
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But the Rules clearly indicate the order of importance. The Theatrical Release Studio should be entered first. New Line Cinema is credited both textual and as logo (at the beginning). The Rules don't disapprove a studio logo as source.


The text based credits clearly state that it is a 'New Line Cinema production.  That means it is the production company.  There is no other way to interpret that credit.
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The text based credits clearly state that it is a 'New Line Cinema production.  That means it is the production company.  There is no other way to interpret that credit.

That you hook on to, but the word Productions in production company's "New Line Productions" apparently leaves you cold, does it? That doesn't ring "production company" to you? 

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Neither your opinion nor the poll will change that fact.

Hey, it's not my poll. I'm just sharing my opinion, which is that this film is distributed by New Line Cinema. That'll be because New Line Cinema actually is their distributing branch, while New Line Productions is the production branch. Apart from the rather helpful studio names, the fact the "New Line Cinema" is the theatrical release studio is further confirmed by the "New Line Cinema" logo preceding the movie, and if you want more, by about every imaginable online source. These three things are more than enough for me. Surely you're not, like Giga, going to blame me for merely sharing the popular opinion?
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The text based credits clearly state that it is a 'New Line Cinema production.  That means it is the production company.  There is no other way to interpret that credit.

That you hook on to, but the word Productions in production company's "New Line Productions" apparently leaves you cold, does it? That doesn't ring "production company" to you? 


That is the company name and means nothing when it comes to what they do.  But you go on pretending it does.  The point is, as written, New Line Productions is the theatrical release comapny and New Line Cinema is the production company.


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Hey, it's not my poll. I'm just sharing my opinion, which is that this film is distributed by New Line Cinema. That'll be because New Line Cinema actually is their distributing branch, while New Line Productions is the production branch. Apart from the rather helpful studio names, the fact the "New Line Cinema" is the theatrical release studio is further confirmed by the "New Line Cinema" logo preceding the movie, and if you want more, by about every imaginable online source. These three things are more than enough for me. Surely you're not, like Giga, going to blame me for merely sharing the popular opinion?


Again, all meaningless.  Ignore it all you want, but the credit is quite clear.
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The point is, as written, New Line Productions is the theatrical release comapny and New Line Cinema is the production company.

Except that in reality, it's the other way around. Feel free to track fictional data if you want, but I sure won't.
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The point is, as written, New Line Productions is the theatrical release comapny and New Line Cinema is the production company.

Except that in reality, it's the other way around. Feel free to track fictional data if you want, but I sure won't.


It is not fictional data as it is exactly what the credit says and the credits, contrary to what you seem to think, are the authoritative source.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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It is not fictional data as it is exactly what the credit says and the credits, contrary to what you seem to think, are the authoritative source.

And I'll happily track all the data from the credits. I just put them in the rules-prescribed order.
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It is not fictional data as it is exactly what the credit says and the credits, contrary to what you seem to think, are the authoritative source.

And I'll happily track all the data from the credits. I just put them in the rules-prescribed order.


Sorry, but you are flat out wrong.  Pretend all you want, the credits are clear and the order you are advocating are not 'per the rules'.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Sorry, but you are flat out wrong.  Pretend all you want, the credits are clear and the order you are advocating are not 'per the rules'.

Hey, that's funny: I feel the exact same way about your point of view. Isn't going around in circles fun? It's almost somewhat soothing, wouldn't you say? I'm sorry, I'm afraid I just have nothing more interesting to add to this...
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