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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
Registered: March 15, 2007
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Yeah, I agree - the wording is misleading if you haven't used a 3rd party database.
Maybe it would be better if it said something like:

"An invalid source was listed in the contribution notes. Please check the contribution rules for valid sources."

@lostmule,
because no one gets to see new profiles, I'm always wary about adding too much info at the start. What I do is add only the basic info to get the profiles started. Then add the detailed info like cast & crew when people can see it and vote on it.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLostmule
Ahhhh BRs.. more BRs...
Registered: December 3, 2008
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Quoting kdh1949:
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I think much of the confusion comes from the reason for denial cited by the reviewer(s):

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"An invalid source, such as a third party database, was listed in the contribution notes. Use of a third party database is not allowed per the contribution rules."

Maybe the wording should say that the box cover is an invalid source for cast and crew data -- because someone like lostmule who only used the box cover can well wonder what "third party database" the reviewers are talking about.  I think this is a case where a generic denial reason doesn't fit well.


Indeed!! this warning along with another were very confusing.. It led me to beleive that I had, in fact, to go through all those various web sites to confirm the legitimacy of what we were submitting (many sources with the same information)...  I cannot blame it on the language issue.. heck I have decided to create my database in English
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLostmule
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Quoting northbloke:
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Yeah, I agree - the wording is misleading if you haven't used a 3rd party database.
Maybe it would be better if it said something like:

"An invalid source was listed in the contribution notes. Please check the contribution rules for valid sources."

@lostmule,
because no one gets to see new profiles, I'm always wary about adding too much info at the start. What I do is add only the basic info to get the profiles started. Then add the detailed info like cast & crew when people can see it and vote on it.



Amen brother... I will do just that.. Add the new movie with less details.. THEN when you have the very long list of crew finished, you can contribute it!!
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Amen brother... I will do just that.. Add the new movie with less details.. THEN when you have the very long list of crew finished, you can contribute it!!


I am glad to see that you have reconsidered.  We need more contributors that want to do things right.  Welcome to the jungle. 
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLostmule
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Registered: December 3, 2008
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Quoting Unicus69:
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I am glad to see that you have reconsidered.  We need more contributors that want to do things right.  Welcome to the jungle. 


Meh can be a pain.. you should see the vote I have to some of the movies I have submitted.. 20yes/10no ... what to do .. what to do ;-)

Furthermore, if I would not enter 'scrap' in my database (which is being rebuilt from scratch.. imagine entering 1835 DVD -with a few TV Series)... They were all inside another DVD catalog I had (since 2001) but because of changes they did to their software, I had to shop around for a replacement.. GLAD I did!!!

Again, thanks all!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Again, I will say that this is not a popularity contest, lostmule. If the votes NO are for a valid issue...FIX IT and resubmit. It's not even a contest. ONE valid NO vote should be addressed, ignore them at your own peril, ignore them enough and people will begin to look closer and closer at your work, wondering what you have done THIS time.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLostmule
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**Edit.. I took what wrote off... that guys is just so abrasive that he manages each time to get under my skin**
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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Registered: May 19, 2007
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Just pretend his UPPER CASE is all lower case.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorBerak
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Quoting lostmule:
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**Edit.. I took what wrote off... that guys is just so abrasive that he manages each time to get under my skin**


While he might come across as abrasive, he makes a good point. One NO vote should be enough for you to recheck your contribution and fix whats wrong (even if you get 15 YES votes on the same contribution). As Skip says; It's not a popularity contest, but a matter of accuracy.

And a hearty welcome to the madhouse from me as well... 
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Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantEvo2Me
Registered: March 15, 2007
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Quoting lyonsden5:
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The more sources the merrier.


That happens when ...

The number of sources doesn't really matter, they have to be independent. If, say, Amazon shows a wrong director for a movie it does not make it better, let alone correct, if IMDB, AMG and several national libraries repeat the error as they source from Amazon.

We have to contemplate the quality of the source, too, as well as their policy in regard to copyright.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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Again, I will say that this is not a popularity contest, lostmule. If the votes NO are for a valid issue...FIX IT and resubmit. It's not even a contest. ONE valid NO vote should be addressed, ignore them at your own peril, ignore them enough and people will begin to look closer and closer at your work, wondering what you have done THIS time.

Skip

Shame you don't follow your own advice isn't it really?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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You still miss the point that was because of tacky behavior, sir. And it continues to be TACKY, very.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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So a "no" vote on anyone else's submission is perfectly acceptable but a "no" vote on one of yours is tacky?
Double standards much?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLostmule
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Thank goodness for the 'block' option! :-)

- Seriously though, on the yes/no think, I do read them all (off course when there are comments left - sheesh, when people take the time to write something, worth reading! Even if it is only 'ditto')..

- When I see 19 yes and 1 no .. I will look at the comment left by the 'no' and when I see that 19 people agree with my post and 1 does not, I will leave it there (after consideration off course) until I see that more say no.. Some consider themselves (actualy only one) as "gospel" and as the "standard" to follow...
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLostmule
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Phew.. good thing I have 2 screens... does help to retype credits!! (I am doing that for Napoleon - too many people to retype haha)
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