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Can we PLEASE have a spoiler tag added to the forum?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMithi
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As to when to use it and when to stop using it.

Some twists should never be revealed gratuitously.

Spoilers are called spoilers for a reason. As long as you can't delete memories you rob the spoilered person of a once in a lifetime chance to get to know a storyline as it unfolds in the movie (or book, or ...)


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And who is going to define spoiler, Ken and Gerri? I think they have more than enough to do. I think it is up to the user to determine what he/she thinks is a spoiler as the user recently did. This seems much ado about NOTHING.

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Quoting TomGaines:
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As to when to use it and when to stop using it.

Some twists should never be revealed gratuitously.

Spoilers are called spoilers for a reason. As long as you can't delete memories you rob the spoilered person of a once in a lifetime chance to get to know a storyline as it unfolds in the movie (or book, or ...)


cya, Mithi


I personally agree to this line of thinking. Especially considering there is those like me. Only in the last few years have I started watching anything pre-'80s so anything earlier (not to mention a few many things afterwards) can easily get spoiled for me. And has been. That is why... for me personally I tend to do my best to stay completely away from any discussion about any movie I have never seen.
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I have to correct myself. Seems like the last time it was proposed (by me ), there weren't any nay-sayer like I was remembering it 


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And who is going to define spoiler, Ken and Gerri? I think they have more than enough to do. I think it is up to the user to determine what he/she thinks is a spoiler as the user recently did. This seems much ado about NOTHING.

Skip

Nothing has to be "defined" by Ken or Gerri. Everything around here doesn't need a rule.    It would simply be a tool that can be used by those of us who want to discuss movie without giving anything away to someone who hasn't seen it yet.


Currently the vote stands at 55 for and 3 against. I'm glad the overwhelming majority of the community sees the benefit of adding this to the forums. I'm sure that same majority would know how to use it without it having to be defined.
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I am not a naysayer, Tom. I am just trying to figure out how it would work and why it is necessary. YOU(generic) have the ability to read such threads or NOT as you choose. A user can and I think it would be considerate to include a "Spoiler Alert" in the Topic Line, but beyond that....

The only way I could see something like a Tag being added, it would have to be done by our overworked personnel as is. I think the "Spoiler Alert" in the Topic is quite sufficient. Is it NOT. And if you are suggesting it be REQUIRED, who is to define what is or is NOT a spoiler, it's a bit like beauty...it's in the eye of the beholder. Further how long would such an Alert be required...FOREVER? Or some arbitrary time frame. Like I said it seems much ado about nothing. Though I understand everyone's thoughts on the matter, implementation would seem difficult at best.

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Rick:

As usual I think you missed my point. This is the Website Discussion Forum, which implies that is something to be ADDED to the website by KEN. What form would take and whatever form that is why is it better than simply stating "Spoiler Alert" in the topic line. Plus like I said it's in the eye of the beholder, who is going to define what a spoiler is or is not, I certainly would not want to try that. For some users anything past the opening credits could be considered a spoiler. Surely you aren't suggesting that something with such an arbitrary definition as SPOILER  should be enforced via the Rep system...though knowing you I guess it wouldn't surprise me very much.

But I am not surprised at your patronizing tone.

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I've always been amazed that there isn't already a spoiler tag in these forums especially when so much about what we talk about is movie based.
And we can't rely on a spoiler comment in the topic name because discussions can easily (and often) change and go onto different subjects, so a post-specific tag would be much more appropriate.
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And we can't rely on a spoiler comment in the topic name because discussions can easily (and often) change and go onto different subjects, so a post-specific tag would be much more appropriate.


Agree 100%


@Skip - sorry, I won't be baited into arguing with you over this issue. Nice try though 
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Here is a great example of a spoiler tag and how it can be used. The thread is something those who haven't seen the movie can read yet those who have seen it can discuss specific plot points.
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I also agree notation in subject line would be insufficient. I seen too many threads in the past start with a discussion with no spoilers what so ever become filled with spoilers once the thread got started.
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What form would take and whatever form that is why is it better than simply stating "Spoiler Alert" in the topic line.


Actually, the functionality is somehwat already there. See the hidden votes. All Ken would have to do is put a Spoiler:  (Select to view)
tag pair for the forum, and use the same code as the votes to hide the text. Presto! Spoiler tag implemented.

As for what should be tagged a spoiler or not, well, that will be for the user to judge. But in my experience, users are usually overenthusiastic with the spoiler tag, and mark as spoiler stuff that didn't necessarily have to be marked.

And i f something that should have been marked a spoiler isn't, well tough on the reader. It was a thread about a movie/book/comic/etc that he had not seen, and that was his choice in the first place to actually read it.
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@Skip - sorry, I won't be baited into arguing with you over this issue. Nice try though 

Thanks, I alomost hit the reply button, but your comment stopped me.
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Ross:

What all this tells me  and what you just verified for me that it is essentially Reader Beware when ANY topic comes up...you never know where a thread is going to go . So a it seems a Spoiler Tag would be virtually worthless, but once again it comes down to as defined by...who....Rick?      

Again while I understand the thoughts behind the request, it seems useless. As I noted some users might consider a spoiler to be anything after the Opening credits. Would a discussion of John Williams' musical description of the shark in Jaws be considered a spoiler, by some it certainly seems like it could be.

Take some responsibility for yourself and your actions, if you are THAT worried about spoilers then don't read any kind of thread than might involve a discussion about a film (any film). It also occurs to me that people who really enjoy and love film could care less about spoilers, one way or the other. I finally got to see Dark Knight and the information that was revealed in that thread did not change my enjoyment of that film one whit.

Some people just want all input into their life controlled and are unwilling to take responsibility for anything they do on their own...including what they choose to read or not.

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1) hundreds (at a minimum) of other forums already have this type of feature and don't seem to have as many problems with its implimentation as some are suggesting would arrise.

2) from a work point of view it would probably take just as long as when Ken added the new smilies to add support from this

3) it can't hurt anything

4) obvious spoilers, like twist endings, do ruin the first time experience of a movie. If someone is reading a topic and reads a post that without warning spoils one of these how would taking responsibility for your own actions have any relation (this text in the parantheses could have just spoiled some movie and you wouldn't have known until after you read it, but that's your fault). If anything posters should take responsibility for what they post and have a little respect for others (that they would probably expect be giving to them) and warn of possible spoilers. If the reader than chooses to read it despite the warning, then its their fault.

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I am not a naysayer, Tom. I am just trying to figure out how it would work and why it is necessary.

Never said you were.
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YOU(generic) have the ability to read such threads or NOT as you choose. A user can and I think it would be considerate to include a "Spoiler Alert" in the Topic Line, but beyond that....

Yes, when the thread title has a spoiler alert I can avoid it. This is why I haven't looked into the "The Dark Knight" thread. But this is why I do not even know what the general opinion in this forum is regarding this movie, which I think is a shame
It isn't like a spoiler tag is something revolutionary. A lot of forums I have visited have such a thing.


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