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Make "Adult" a checkbox
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
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After reading these posts it sounds like what is missing is a proper definition of what adult actually means.  The X rating of old was what adult films were.  In other words sex was portrayed on the screen to where you could see everything and it was intended for the adult viewer.  Later the porn industry created the XXX rating in order to try to out do one another, "My film is an X!" "Oh yeah, mine is a XXX!"  This rating was never adopted by the MPA.  This has caused much confusion that is really unnecessary.  I think Ken did a great job naming it "Adult" as it does what it should do.  It is a tag to allow people to know that these movies whether due to gratuitous sex and or violence this movie is intended only for adults.  As for the Playboy and GGW videos the majority of them while they should not be viewed by those under 18 they do not warrant an adult rating, they are easily covered by an NR or an NC-17 as they are not intended for children and there are a lot of NR movies  that are.  I can see going with the NC-17 or just leaving them in the adult rating system.  Then again I would not oppose for certain movies "erotica/porn" returning to their original rating of X.


I agree.

And we must certainly not forget those films which have extreme violence - I think those can be more damaging than sex.
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The X rating of old was what adult films were.  In other words sex was portrayed on the screen to where you could see everything and it was intended for the adult viewer. 


The X rating is the actual NC-17 rating don't confuse it with the 2X or 3X. The X rating was use by the MPAA but they don't copyright it, that's why the other X appear. Don't forget that most producer self apply a X on their movie at that time since it was better to sell them to the drive-in costumer.
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Other than this I would want the Adult genre to be renamed to Erotic or Porn.

Agreed it should be named porn.
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I will say here what I just said in the other thread... As I believe it is more then XXX/Porn = Adult... much more.

If you think that "much more" is parental control, then I have to respond that we already have the normal ratings which should be used for parental control. But for hiding profiles in your online collection from other adult users, "porn" should be the relevant criterion.
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And we must certainly not forget those films which have extreme violence - I think those can be more damaging than sex.

This is covered by NC-17 or the UK 18.
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I will say here what I just said in the other thread... As I believe it is more then XXX/Porn = Adult... much more.

If you think that "much more" is parental control, then I have to respond that we already have the normal ratings which should be used for parental control. But for hiding profiles in your online collection from other adult users, "porn" should be the relevant criterion.


bold by me...
and why do you think it is only adult users that look at online collections? I know for a fact that kids and younger teens look at my collection online from time to time.

And just because ratings should tell what can be seen doesn't necessarily work... for example NR is a rating that could mean adult... or it could just mean it is a TV Series... since most TV Series is released with an NR rating on the box. So here I have TV Series and Playboy & Girls Gone Wild DVDs as NR... if I decide to hide all my NR discs... there goes my complete TV Series collection... the majority of my DVD collection.
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And we must certainly not forget those films which have extreme violence - I think those can be more damaging than sex.

This is covered by NC-17 or the UK 18.


Not necessarily true... Most all my Masters of Horror DVDs are extremely violent... filled with gore... but yet they are rated NR. And I seen many R rated movies that was heavy on the gore/violence as well.

Hell... pretty much most horror movie is at least heavy on violence... no matter the rating.
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And just because ratings should tell what can be seen doesn't necessarily work... for example NR is a rating that could mean adult... or it could just mean it is a TV Series... since most TV Series is released with an NR rating on the box. So here I have TV Series and Playboy & Girls Gone Wild DVDs as NR... if I decide to hide all my NR discs... there goes my complete TV Series collection... the majority of my DVD collection.


Not just those. For instance, War Classics - 50 Movie Pack,  all rated NR.
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This is why the term is so hard to describe, it have a different meaning for everyone. Some type of movie are evident (XXX), some are quasi-evident (playboy/GGW), other not obvious (sexploitation like the title who start the other topic) and even violent movie (Cannibal Holocaust, Death Wish,...).

I don't have any child and I grew up with my father alone and he let me did whatever I want, so I'm not the best judge for all the question concerning what a child can or can't watch. That's why I think that the personal checkbox is the best way to deal with that.

With this preference all the problem will be eliminate, since it's become a personnal choice. Each user decide for himself what is adult and his own preference is use for his database and his online collection. The choice is not force to the others and no need to argurment that a breast sighting means adult movie.


If you do push for a checkbox then I agree with AESP_pres that it should be an individual preference that the user can set and not an opinion that's imported from the database.  Otherwise we're just going to have endless discussions about what constitutes "Adult" in the contributions forum.

From a programmatic point of view I think it's unnecessary, but it would be a nice user feature, "check this and it's hidden."
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I guess it must be online because of legal issues. At the same time, I think it's highly subjective. 
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And just because ratings should tell what can be seen doesn't necessarily work... for example NR is a rating that could mean adult... or it could just mean it is a TV Series... since most TV Series is released with an NR rating on the box. So here I have TV Series and Playboy & Girls Gone Wild DVDs as NR... if I decide to hide all my NR discs... there goes my complete TV Series collection... the majority of my DVD collection.


Not just those. For instance, War Classics - 50 Movie Pack,  all rated NR.


And that isn't even mentioning all the Unrated Director Cuts of movies that come out for (what seems to be) every other title now a day.
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What is it that is said in US laws about "adult". Why does it has to be there? Does the law say "You cannot distribute DVD catolog program without adult genre"?   
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and why do you think it is only adult users that look at online collections? I know for a fact that kids and younger teens look at my collection online from time to time.

If they look at your collection on the Internet, they can see other things on the Internet as well. But they can't watch your movies (not only the profiles) on your online collection.
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That don't mean I don't want the option of correctly hiding the adult titles in my collection without  hiding the ones that are not adult in nature.

Just because they have the opportunity to go to other sites that is adult don't mean I want them to be able to see listings for the adult movies on my collection site. I rather be more responsible then that. And be able to hide stuff like the Playboy or GGW discs which are NR and not have to hide all my TV Series DVDs at the same time because they have to share the same rating.
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But Pete this is what an adult checkbox do. You choose personally what you want to show or hide in your collection. A check title doesn't pass the "parental control" and don't appear in the online collection. But, I don't want to let a program or another user decide what I can or can't show in my collection.

We will say as an example that I've a 12 years old boy and I let him use my computer and he can access my online collection : Personally I have no problem with nudity, but I've one with violence too real, so I look my collection and like it is now everything NR are allowed by the program. But, if I have the control I can use the checkbox to block some title, by exemple by my criteria :

Block : Cannibal Holocaust, Man Bites Dog, Murder Set Pieces and Hostel (just some exemples)
not block : Space thing, Trader Hornee, The All-American Girl (just some exemples)

Everyone here are different, that's why I prefer a "user solution" more than an impose way to do it like it is now.
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Personally I have no problem with nudity, but I've one with violence too real

Me too. I've never heard of children who could not sleep because they saw some titties, but I have seen a lot of examples of "children" who went on carnage after a violent movie.
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