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Do you make use of the cast/crew names split into 3 fields (First/Middle/Last)
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<<slaps forehead>> Totally forgot about the possiblity of a "full substring search".

If some more foreheads get slapped, we might even allow simple wild cards.
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You can't sort by surname without at least 2 fields, which to me is crucial functionality.


I agree with that.
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With the ever re-occuring discussions about how we should parse names it has frequently been suggested that we get rid of the 3 fields and have just 1.

Whilst this would stop most, if not all of these disputes we should consider if anyone has a genuine use for the 3 fields before suggesting it's merge into 1.

This is not a poll to say if you want to get rid of the 3 fields, I'm just intrigued to see if the split data is being utilised or not.

You just were faster than me. - I was to write a "feature request" on that matter...

Some points to be thougt of:

- For searching there should be word indexes anyway! - Otherwise we can't find the guys with articles in front of their surnames...
- For sorting we should consider to get an aditional sort field, as we have it with DVD titles, which can be altered locally while a proposal comes with the online database. YES, this means to have a more independent database table for persons.
- We should merge cast and crew database tables
- Maybe we should get a field for other used names of the person (something like IMDB uses to link different credits to one actor). I don't think, that such a feature would work automatically, but it could be of great help when searching for cross links - take it as an online form of the "common name thread"...
- And, while dreaming of a perfect person oriented data structure, I'd like to see a field for the gender of the actor/crew member

Regards, AA
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You can't sort by surname without at least 2 fields, which to me is crucial functionality.

You can't sort by surnames either, when the rule of the thumb is to use the last word as surname, as suggested by our rule oriented guys, sorry.

If we want to get out any profit of dividing names into fields (I think there are at least five of them: sex, title, given name(s), unused and middle names, surnames), then we have to accept that names are more related to curltural heritage than simple words, which this text exists of...

Regards, AA
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You can't sort by surname without at least 2 fields, which to me is crucial functionality.

You can't sort by surnames either, when the rule of the thumb is to use the last word as surname, as suggested by our rule oriented guys, sorry.
Regards, AA


Do you use statistics plugin? You'll see that results are presented in the form
Ford, Harrisson    20
Gibson, Mel        18
....

So we can sort by surnames
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You can't sort by surname without at least 2 fields, which to me is crucial functionality.

You can't sort by surnames either, when the rule of the thumb is to use the last word as surname, as suggested by our rule oriented guys, sorry.
Regards, AA


Do you use statistics plugin? You'll see that results are presented in the form
Ford, Harrisson    20
Gibson, Mel        18
....

So we can sort by surnames

When I said "can't", I meant it doesn't work as long as there are quarrels about common names which are solved by dividing words instead of names from each other: Helena/Bonham/Carter will never show up within the Bs where she belongs to...

Regards, AA
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When I said "can't", I meant it doesn't work as long as there are quarrels about common names ...


There is a very simple way to solve those quarrels. You don't care and use only your own database, with your choices, and locking your profiles to avoid your database being polluted by the online profiles (with spelling mistakes in overviews and so on...).
I've not the slightest problem with common names,  using the excellent plugin which allows to manage them.
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Ihave an easier solution, surfeur, don't try to impose your will on the world. A "mistake' is what you SEE on the Cover or whatever. I am not interested in what you THINK are mistakes and YOUR fix, KEEPO your crap corrections where they belong....LOCALLY. I get so tired of yor persistent whining aboiut the same thing, we do it profiler's way NOT my way and certainly NOT your way.

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Ihave an easier solution, surfeur, don't try to impose your will on the world. A "mistake' is what you SEE on the Cover or whatever. I am not interested in what you THINK are mistakes and YOUR fix, KEEPO your crap corrections where they belong....LOCALLY. I get so tired of yor persistent whining aboiut the same thing, we do it profiler's way NOT my way and certainly NOT your way.

Skip


Yeah, I understand you LOVE spelling mistakes
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Ihave an easier solution, surfeur, don't try to impose your will on the world. A "mistake' is what you SEE on the Cover or whatever. I am not interested in what you THINK are mistakes and YOUR fix, KEEPO your crap corrections where they belong....LOCALLY. I get so tired of yor persistent whining aboiut the same thing, we do it profiler's way NOT my way and certainly NOT your way.

Skip


If had you read what I wrote, you should agree, as I propose to AiAustria to use his local database. So why do you whine?

I do not know your age, but you behave like those senile people who always repeat the same thing without listening to what other people say.
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Ihave an easier solution, surfeur, don't try to impose your will on the world. A "mistake' is what you SEE on the Cover or whatever. I am not interested in what you THINK are mistakes and YOUR fix, KEEPO your crap corrections where they belong....LOCALLY. I get so tired of yor persistent whining aboiut the same thing, we do it profiler's way NOT my way and certainly NOT your way.

Skip


Yeah, I understand you LOVE spelling mistakes


And you don't know the difference between typos and actual spelling errors, either.  Leave off, already.
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...Leave off, already.


I was debating with AiAustria. Skip, as usual, wanted  to take part to the discussion... If he had not written his eternal drivels, I would not have had to answer him.

By the way, he needs your help to answer me ???
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