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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting EnryWiki:
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...Only problem, there are slight stylistic variants which make the CLT system a total mess when it comes to juniors and seniors...
This is far to be the only problem. What about capitalized letters that american users refuse to transform with correct accented lower case letters? And what about typos on credits that sometimes show Jean Paul or Jean François instead of Jean-Paul or Jean-François (with further consequences in first /middle name), not speaking about the mess in asian names... It's the same mess, surfeur. You are wanting something that flies in the face of the data On Scree sometimes. Because I do not worry about such things I can enter data from ANY movie, as long as our program can cope with it, which means there are characters that we are still waiting to see if the Program will ever be able to cope with, but beyoind that little problem, I have no problem entering data from ANY movie ANYWHERE because I enter the data that is On Screen and don't concern myself with trying to satisfy what i think it would be in American English. Ken has weighed in specifically on this and as i have said you do not add data that does not appear On Screen. No imaginary data in Credited As field, and if that winds up being the MOST Commonly Credited name. And here you are still going about trying to salve your national pride, despite Ken's specific comments. Try it, surfeur, it is not bad and it isn't hard to do, and you won't get an ulcer over it or any fleas from America. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
Ok, then you've got the same problem that we've got now, that people tend to change what they call themselves.
Ricky Schroeder/Rick Schroeder
Dee Wallace/Dee Wallace-Stone
And so on. I takes about 5 seconds to change a common name for all the entries of that actor in your collection. | | | | Images from movies |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote:
I think the Credited As name should be as accurate as possible, but the Common Name is just a conventional label for a pointer: the important thing is that it links all the credits of the same actor or crew member. If the common name was just a label to cross link credits, it would not be structured into the three fields "first name", "middle name", and "last name". I often hear this theory, but it is flawed. But I do agree that for the common name almost any credit used for a person would fit our needs. So why not use the most credited one. But then I do welcome some form of standardisation as well, like suffixes, titles, Asian names etc. |
| | Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
If the common name was just a label to cross link credits, it would not be structured into the three fields "first name", "middle name", and "last name". I often hear this theory, but it is flawed.
Well, we label by names, not by numbers or colors or headshots  Names are structured, so that the program can sort them by last name, for instance. Indeed, we label by the most commonly credited name, and that's all well and good, but this system becomes too complex to handle when there are too many stylistic variants and different ways of entering them. Quote:
But I do agree that for the common name almost any credit used for a person would fit our needs. So why not use the most credited one. But then I do welcome some form of standardisation as well, like suffixes, titles, Asian names etc. OK. | | | | -- Enry |
| | Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting EnryWiki:
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...Only problem, there are slight stylistic variants which make the CLT system a total mess when it comes to juniors and seniors...
This is far to be the only problem.
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Agreed, but all the more reason to tackle these problems. | | | | -- Enry |
| | Registered: January 5, 2008 |  Posts: 61 |
| | Posted: | | | | just to make sure I pull of a useless effort in changing my profiles. this will be done automatically, right? I've already seen several contributions for the new rule. Do we need to redo all the current profiles or will they be updated automatically? I started reading the thread to find an answer... but this thread has grown to long to read through  |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | . | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
| | Registered: January 5, 2008 | | Posts: 61 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
changes are automatically if you contribute a change to the profile, then it is noticed, else not. oh, I thought it went over the database and changed them by itself so all I simply had to do was update my profiles. Guess I still have to contribute the new changes to profiles not likely to get an update in the near future. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | My understanding is that this only happens during contribution. I haven't noticed it happening across the entire db.
Ken, could you confirm or deny this? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | He has confirmed it previously in this thread. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote:
He has confirmed it previously in this thread. Ah, thanks. Either I missed it or my short term memory is starting to go...I hope I simply missed it.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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