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Registered: July 7, 2007 | Posts: 284 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Telecine: Quote: Quoting EnryWiki:
Quote: Quoting RaymondG:
Quote: Quoting Telecine:
Quote: Quoting RaymondG:
Quote: Quoting Telecine:
Quote: I have a solution for all disgruntled DVD Profiler contributors, buy Region 4 Australian DVDs. I have a number of good reasons for suggesting this:
- We need more contributors. You will be made very welcome and even receive positive reputation feedback for your good contribitions; - Avoid all of the pain associated with contributing in other regions. We do not have any obnoxious users in Region 4 Australia that I know of ; - Our dollar is currently very weak compared to others. I don't know why we have to suffer so much in this World Wide Financial Crisis but everyone flees our dollar when fiscal and budgetary challenges appear. A link to the current exhange rates can be found here. After being at near parity to the US dollar six months ago, this is quite a decline. That means cheap DVDs for you. Our economy needs the business; and - As Europeans already know, the PAL colour system is superior to NTSC.
Come on, you know that you want to.
Give me some GOOD webshops that ship to Europe and I'm your man! (cd-wow sucks so you can leave that one out )
This is a reasonable hub site that will help you find the best price. Most of the e-tailers listed will ship to the EU.
ehrrr, where's the link?
I would be interested as well!
[EDIT: Thanks for the link! I've also just checked a currency converter: 1.00 AUD=0.509303 EUR ]
By the way, I've just contributed something for an R4 profile (Bounce: Special 2 Disc Edition 9-398511-386036) already in the database. Actually I bought it on CD-WOW, but it's Australian as to DVD distributor, region and rating system (M15+, as M was formerly known, I gather). .
Excellent! The more we get on board the better. The Euro will go a long way here at the moment.
Thanks for your contribution too. M15+ was indeed formely M. We also have MA now. Here is a link to the latest ratings and their meanings. I just checked it out but most of the sites listed there do not have BR or very few and the prices are, despite the good euro standing, quite steep. DVDownunder.com seems to be the most comprehensive but the prices are quite steep for someone living in Europe. That's mostly because the pound is very favorable at the moment; Hellboy II will go for 40 AUS Dollar + 5 AUS shipping (roughly 23 euro) and in England I bought that same title (amazon.co.uk) for 16 pound) roughly 17 euro). Above that, possible customs charges | | | My DVD's
Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard drive? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: When did this happen? The issue that came up earlier was about a user that refused to document his data in any way, shape, or form. That user stated, quite clearly, that it was the voter's responsibility to document the changes. All he had to do was point out the fact that he made them. If you're talking about me you're lying, because that's not true. I do document my changes if I think they need to be. And for the record I'm always trying to keep the majority happy as I sometimes add things that I do not want in my local (like a costume supervisor), so please do not pretend I'm lazy or an ashole because I'm not. The issue that came up concerned a specific profile. You refused to document your changes claiming that it was up to the voters to do that. In addition, you just confirmed that you don't document your data when you don't feel like it so, please, tell me how my statement is a lie? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote: I document what I've changed and if needed why as I think the average user is smart enough to figure out why I've changed things. I think that's the opposite of being arrogant, because if I thought I knew things better I wouldn't take the time to contribute all my hard work to begin with. There, you just said it again. Telling people what you changed isn't documenting the change, it is pointing out the obvious as the comparison screen will show people the areas you have changed. Unless the average user is a mind reader, how are they to know 'why' you made a change? Bottom line, the rules tell you to explain ALL your changes and you, for whatever reason, feel like you are above that rule...that is being arrogant. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| | Berak | Bibamus morieundum est! |
Registered: May 10, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Quoting Daddy DVD:
Quote: I document what I've changed and if needed why as I think the average user is smart enough to figure out why I've changed things. I think that's the opposite of being arrogant, because if I thought I knew things better I wouldn't take the time to contribute all my hard work to begin with.
There, you just said it again. Telling people what you changed isn't documenting the change, it is pointing out the obvious as the comparison screen will show people the areas you have changed. Unless the average user is a mind reader, how are they to know 'why' you made a change? Bottom line, the rules tell you to explain ALL your changes and you, for whatever reason, feel like you are above that rule...that is being arrogant. I heartily agree Unicus! | | | Berak
It's better to burn out than to fade away! True love conquers all! |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Martin:
I really hate to do this but... The Contribution I am referring to has an SRP change, AND a Common Name addition. Here are your notes
Corrected Release Date (Source: http://www.dvd-home.nl/), Added SRP: EUR 22,67 (= NLG 49,95), Added Closing "</b>" to End of Overview, Added Common Name of Make-up Artist, Removed Special Effects Assistants and Technicians; http://www.imdb.com/Glossary/S#sfx
I see you commenting on the SRP change, but I see no documentation, I also see no Documentation regarding your Common name usage, no verification that Name A=Name B and no CLT results.
So I would advise taking care in calling Unicus a liar, and then claiming that you provide documentation for what you have changed because, my friend, that simply isn't true.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: You presume to much, thinking i gavce you a red arrow.. You chose to come here and attack a user by name, completely and totally unacceptable behavior on your part. If you have an issue with me there is a place for it and it isn't here. Your being bitten was a refernce to my calling Contributions garbage, you threw the first rock, sir. if you wish to discuss this firther...TAKE IT WHERE IT BELONGS...not here, that is negative in and of itself, and adds NOTHING useful to these Forums.
Skip I never called your contributions garbage (that I remember). I voted no on one of your contributions due to inaccurate data, which you got mad at, but I didn't call it garbage. Look, you can continue with your barrage of mudslinging all you like, it doesn't matter to me. I've said what many people feel. You don't have to like it, that's fine, but it's the truth. It's not just my opinion. There are people who are unwilling to ask questions because of how you respond. It's not worth the headache. But, like I said, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter to me. One of the awesome things about the software is I can keep it local, and I do. I am much more happy doing so, because I don't have to get involved in a 17 page on the spelling of "DeVito". Would I like to contribute some of the DVDs that are inaccurate in the Database to help others? Sure, but not until it's a more welcoming environment. It's understandable that some longtimers don't see it, as you are probably accustomed to the ways of some of the users, but you really should look at it with fresh eyes. Again, that's not to say there's no help to be gotten from here, but it's gotten to a point for me where I just PM the people who have helped me in the past, rather than start a thread that will get completely out of hand (like this one -- although I did steal that Aussie link, thank you OP ) As I mentioned before, people want to contribute. They do. I know a few of them. But there's fixable reasons why they don't. And when posting those reasons gets an arrow down, it's easy to justify why I don't bother. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 820 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting RaymondG: Quote: Quoting Telecine:
Quote: Quoting EnryWiki:
Quote: Quoting RaymondG:
Quote: Quoting Telecine:
Quote: Quoting RaymondG:
Quote: Quoting Telecine:
Quote: I have a solution for all disgruntled DVD Profiler contributors, buy Region 4 Australian DVDs. I have a number of good reasons for suggesting this:
- We need more contributors. You will be made very welcome and even receive positive reputation feedback for your good contribitions; - Avoid all of the pain associated with contributing in other regions. We do not have any obnoxious users in Region 4 Australia that I know of ; - Our dollar is currently very weak compared to others. I don't know why we have to suffer so much in this World Wide Financial Crisis but everyone flees our dollar when fiscal and budgetary challenges appear. A link to the current exhange rates can be found here. After being at near parity to the US dollar six months ago, this is quite a decline. That means cheap DVDs for you. Our economy needs the business; and - As Europeans already know, the PAL colour system is superior to NTSC.
Come on, you know that you want to.
Give me some GOOD webshops that ship to Europe and I'm your man! (cd-wow sucks so you can leave that one out )
This is a reasonable hub site that will help you find the best price. Most of the e-tailers listed will ship to the EU.
ehrrr, where's the link?
I would be interested as well!
[EDIT: Thanks for the link! I've also just checked a currency converter: 1.00 AUD=0.509303 EUR ]
By the way, I've just contributed something for an R4 profile (Bounce: Special 2 Disc Edition 9-398511-386036) already in the database. Actually I bought it on CD-WOW, but it's Australian as to DVD distributor, region and rating system (M15+, as M was formerly known, I gather). .
Excellent! The more we get on board the better. The Euro will go a long way here at the moment.
Thanks for your contribution too. M15+ was indeed formely M. We also have MA now. Here is a link to the latest ratings and their meanings.
I just checked it out but most of the sites listed there do not have BR or very few and the prices are, despite the good euro standing, quite steep. DVDownunder.com seems to be the most comprehensive but the prices are quite steep for someone living in Europe. That's mostly because the pound is very favorable at the moment; Hellboy II will go for 40 AUS Dollar + 5 AUS shipping (roughly 23 euro) and in England I bought that same title (amazon.co.uk) for 16 pound) roughly 17 euro). Above that, possible customs charges I would agree that the BR prices are steep. They do not seem to be discounted much yet. I think that you will find that EZYDVD probably has the widest selection of BR titles. See here. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 113 |
| Posted: | | | | Just a word of caution about EzyDVD - they went into receivership late last year (see here) and many of the physical stores are closing down. A large number of titles on the website are listed as "awaiting stock delivery". |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Michael A: Quote: Just a word of caution about EzyDVD - they went into receivership late last year (see here) and many of the physical stores are closing down.
A large number of titles on the website are listed as "awaiting stock delivery". That's sad to hear - I always found EzyDVD to be a very reliable source of R4 DVDs. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,366 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: I see you commenting on the SRP change, but I see no documentation, I also see no Documentation regarding your Common name usage, no verification that Name A=Name B and no CLT results. I've updated my notes. I hope you're satisfied now. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,366 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Quoting Daddy DVD:
Quote: I document what I've changed and if needed why as I think the average user is smart enough to figure out why I've changed things. I think that's the opposite of being arrogant, because if I thought I knew things better I wouldn't take the time to contribute all my hard work to begin with.
There, you just said it again. Telling people what you changed isn't documenting the change, it is pointing out the obvious as the comparison screen will show people the areas you have changed. Unless the average user is a mind reader, how are they to know 'why' you made a change? Bottom line, the rules tell you to explain ALL your changes and you, for whatever reason, feel like you are above that rule...that is being arrogant. I do not feel I'm above the rule. I just hate to document what I think is obvious and I never had any complaines, so I just thought it wasn't necessary. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,366 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Berak: Quote: I heartily agree Unicus! And for you I changed my No-vote to Neutral for your Seven contribution. I hope I lost all the grudges users had on me this topic... | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 129 |
| Posted: | | | | Quite interesting to see thread drift in action. From specific point to general mudslinging. From informed discussion to mano a mano. From interesting debate to pointless back and forth. I would have thought at least our European [Old Europe!] friends would abide to sine ira et studio and leave shoot first, ask later to the colonies.
As it turns out, war, if only on something insignificant as a database for some minor recreational phenomenon, is easier than talk. Do people really wonder why many users simply do nota care contributing or taking part in discussion? I guess not, I guess that's part of the problem - nobody wonders anymore.
Pathetic. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Come on Martin. Approved Contribution of January 4 by Jeronimo on Page 1, is not documentation, if Jeronimo got away with something then it is quite possible all you are doing is propagating an error. Don't ever do that.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,366 |
| Posted: | | | | He didn't got away with anything, because what he said is true as everybody in the Netherlands knows. Also his contribution was approved by an unaminous decision of what you don't know anything about because you just added the profile later to your collection to piss me off. Go play with somebody else and leave me alone will ya. PS. Don't bother to respond because I've blocked you again. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands | | | Last edited: by Daddy DVD |
| | Berak | Bibamus morieundum est! |
Registered: May 10, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote: Quoting Berak:
Quote: I heartily agree Unicus! And for you I changed my No-vote to Neutral for your Seven contribution. I hope I lost all the grudges users had on me this topic... I hold no grudges - nor have I ever done. Thanks for changing your vote by the way | | | Berak
It's better to burn out than to fade away! True love conquers all! | | | Last edited: by Berak |
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