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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi,
if I understand it correctly, two of the new features will be the colour of the movie and its dimension.
Colour will probably encompass B/W, Coloured (B/W "upgrade") and Colour.
Dimension will probably encompass 2D and 3D.
When the online database is upgraded what will the defaults for these fields be? Empty?
To avoid a buttload of single-field contributions, may I suggest to default these fields to "Colour" / "2D" for all existing titles in the database?
It will be far more easier to correct the (in the grand scheme of things) few old B/W movies and new 3D releases.
IMHO. | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 |  Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes, these are the defaults. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I was hoping!  Ken... can you confirm if it is just color or B&W... or all choices... - Color (obvious) - B&W (obvious) - Colorized: If originally released in B&W... color added later - Mixed: Movies that contain both color and B&W Scenes (i.e. The Wizard of Oz) - Tinted: for silent/old films that were hand-tinted, which doesn't qualify as Colorized since it was an intended process by the filmmakers, versus something done decades later by people uninvolved | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
It will be far more easier to correct the (in the grand scheme of things) few old B/W movies and new 3D releases. About 80% of my films are B&W. Can we just leave it blank? --------------- |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
About 80% of my films are B&W. Can we just leave it blank? Grand scheme of things, remember? I'd bet 90% of all profiles are colour. Not 90% of all movies, but especially TV shows are about 7 profiles per season which give a big drift towards colour. If you leave it blank, then ALL profiles will have to be updated. There will be hundreds of contributions in the first weeks where someone adds colour and 2D and nothing else. Maybe another compromise would be helpful. When the default is set, set all profiles without prod year to colour set all profiles with prod year < 1950 (when did colour films become common?) to B/W set all profiles with prod year >= 1950 to colour set all profiles to 2D | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | As much as I hate the idea of landslide of contributions about "2D<>3D" or different color variations, I have to admit that I hate even more the idea of knowingly entering incorrect data to db. So, I vote it should be left empty. |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Are we tracking anaglyph 3d, or just the field-sequential 3d? |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | The defaults are 2D and Color. However, the DVD->Paste (and Collection->Flagged->Paste) have checkboxes for Color Format and Dimensions, so these are quick to set.
The options for dimensions are (checkboxes): 2D, 2D Anaglyph, and 3D Blu-ray. The 2D Anaglyph has the following hint: "Blue/red glasses or similar, or splitscreen"
The options for color are (drop-down): Color, Black & White, Colorized, and Mixed.
I realize that splitscreen isn't technically Anaglyph, hence the hint. These need to be grouped somewhere and splitscreen is too rare to merit it's own field. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative | | | | Last edited: by Ken Cole |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
The options for color are (drop-down): Color, Black & White, Colorized, and Mixed. It's going to be very interesting to see what the Rules say about the usage of "colorized" and "mixed" in contributions. --------------- |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd prefer side-by-side be in its own checkbox and not mixed with anaglyph as the required equipment is quite different. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
Quoting Ken Cole:
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The options for color are (drop-down): Color, Black & White, Colorized, and Mixed.
It's going to be very interesting to see what the Rules say about the usage of "colorized" and "mixed" in contributions.
--------------- I think colorized and mixed will be easy enough. I am more curios how to end up handling tinted. I would imagine Black & White. I would also had preferred the color options to be check boxes instead of a drop-down. I have several sets where there is both black & White and color in the set. And before you say it... yes... have it in the child profile. But I have some where there is a film in B&W and another in color on the same disc. A lot of those multi-movie sets from Mill Creek Ent... like Horror Classics: 100 Movie Pack. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I think colorized and mixed will be easy enough. I am more curios how to end up handling tinted. I would imagine Black & White. Your tinted may be someone else's colorized, especially when only part of the film is tinted. Also, how much of a B&W film has to be in color to be "mixed"? I have a B&W film with about 3 frames in color. Quote:
But I have some where there is a film in B&W and another in color on the same disc. A lot of those multi-movie sets from Mill Creek Ent... like Horror Classics: 100 Movie Pack. Hmmm. I see your problem. I don't go near the water myself. --------------- |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would also think tinted would count as black and white. For that matter, quite a few black-and-white films have the whole thing tinted sepia.
I'm also wondering about the necessary mix to count as mixed. I just watched Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, which has a flashback in black and white, except for Harry himself, who's in color. This only lasts a few minutes in a move that's otherwise in color. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
I'm also wondering about the necessary mix to count as mixed. I just watched Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, which has a flashback in black and white, except for Harry himself, who's in color. This only lasts a few minutes in a move that's otherwise in color. Yeah, flashbacks are often in B&W to sigify them as such. Mixed coloured films from the top of my head: Pleasantville, Sin City, Kill Bill Vol. 1 (european & american cut). What about TV shows? Most have them have at least one Noir-kind episode during their run. Does this make the season set "mixed"? | | | Karsten
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| Registered: October 30, 2008 | | Posts: 1,249 |
| | Posted: | | | | I can already see "mixed" becoming a bone of contention, trying to decide how much screen-time it takes to go from color to mixed. 2 seconds? 30 seconds? 10 instances of 1/4-second blinks?  | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,749 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
I realize that splitscreen isn't technically Anaglyph, hence the hint. These need to be grouped somewhere and splitscreen is too rare to merit it's own field. All broadcast 3D TV, at least on Comcast and Fios, is splitscreen, but I have never seen a DVD/Blu-ray that is splitscreen. Are there such discs? | | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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