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| Registered: June 8, 2007 |  Posts: 151 |
| | Posted: | | | | I dont think this is a box set but correct me if I am wrong
the Wayne's World / Wayne's World 2: Double Feature - 097361-229843
This Set Contains One disc and both films are on the same side so this doesn't fit the Box set rules description. I am trying to add the cast and crew from both films (with dividers) and there is someone who keeps voting no stating because this is a box set, it was declined the first time because it has two profiles in box set contents, but the profiles are the stand alone profiles and have nothing to do with this profile other than the films,(Can't make two profiles with only one UPC and only one Disc ID.)
So would this be a box set. | | | | Last edited: by Darknite |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | I wouldn't say that it's a boxset. The way you're suggesting is exactly the same way as a Village of the Damned / Children of the Damned release (012569691827) is set up. |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not a box set - with both films on a single side of a disc there's no other way to set it up than with dividers. The link to the two stand-alone profiles in box set contents should be removed.
Totally agree with both of you therefore. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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| Registered: May 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | based on your description I agree, it's not a box set. I have a Jackie Chan double feature like this.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with your assessment of this. Not a box set. But hopefully someday Ken will add the ability to profiles sets like this differently. I despise using dividers on things like this and break them up into manual profiles locally. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree.. this is definitely not a boxset | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is not a box set. There is a reason the rules state "Sets containing 2 films, one on each side of Dual-Sided DVD." That reason is the program needs and identifier, be it disc ID or UPC, for each profile. If both films are on the same side, the program can't split them up. Attaching the profiles for the individual releases is against the rules as those discs are not contained in this set. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | Right, but then things like the Awards plugin don't work properly. It'd be nice to have a way to profile the movies separately even if they're both on the same side of the disc. Maybe 3.6.3. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." | | | | Last edited: by gardibolt |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting gardibolt: Quote:
Right, but then things like the Awards plugin don't work properly. It'd be nice to have a way to profile the movies separately even if they're both on the same side of the disc. Maybe 3.6.3. You can always do manual profiles and make a box set with them. I have a couple of DVD collections that have 4 to 10 movies on multiple double-sided discs. I did manual child profiles for them and linked them to the UPC'd title. It isn't the ideal solution but it works in a pinch. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,879 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agree with everyone else - not a box set. Like the other voices, I have several like this set up with dividers (The Last Time I Saw Paris/Father's Little Dividend, Sidewalks of London/Storm in a Teacup, Dark Journey/Fire Over England, Santa Claus is Coming to Town/The Little Drummer Boy to name a few) and all of my contributions of cast/crew with dividers have been accepted every time. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: April 17, 2007 |  Posts: 771 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sorry, I hate to destroy the happy agreement mood here, but according to the rules this IS a boxset, we just cannot contribute it like one - rules say :"The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film." (bolding by me)
The rules then list 3 examples, but it has more than one film, only the limitations of the program don't allow us to treat it like a boxset online. | | |  |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hallo-marvin: Quote:
Sorry, I hate to destroy the happy agreement mood here, but according to the rules this IS a boxset, we just cannot contribute it like one - rules say :"The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film." (bolding by me)
The rules then list 3 examples, but it has more than one film, only the limitations of the program don't allow us to treat it like a boxset online. Totally agree with that. Rules are clear, it is a boxset. The fact that we cannot contribute is just one more example where rules do not match with what is necessary to get a correct online database. This has already been discussed here and I had the same position. | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
There is a reason the rules state "Sets containing 2 films, one on each side of Dual-Sided DVD." This is not a statement, it's an example, which do not exclude other situations. You cannot argue to follow strictly rules to enter an incorrect Jean Claude Forest (instead of Jean-Claude Forest), then not follow strictly the rules in that case. We decide to follow strictly the rules or not, but cannot pick just what we like and refuse or interpret the rest. Rule committee forum is here to ask for changes in rules, until that, we have to use what we have. | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | You call it common sense, surfeur, i call it simple intelligence. First this has been discussed numerous times. Now why do i call it simple intelligence. There are one of two things which are needed to create a oprofile, neither of which can be repeated they are unique to the profile (1) UPC number...already in use for the profile (2) DiscID, given that discs such as this one have two movies on a single side, it would be ludicrous to set up two profiles for the Online. This is a local call for those who are concerned about such things as awards,and whys is that you might ask, because Awards and SUCH are local issues they are not issues related to the Online database at this time. This was not something that was overlooked, there have been such titles around for years, this was a simnple realization of the limtations of the program at the current time, perhaps one day Ken will creat some sort of rational method for doing these separately but he hasn't as yet...and personally from Online viewpoint i don't really see the need, I can undertstand it from a LOCAL viewpoint but since none of the local issues are dealt with within the Online. Why is it that EVERYTHING must be Online, and there is no one that ever says Oh, i get it, this is local because the online does not deal with awards , title sorting or whatever your favorite poison happens to be. As I have commented many times I have a LOT of data that is not Contributable and I am not panting to see to it that it gets into the Online, it is data that I want and I KNOW how to do it, it is not necessary for EVERYTHING and every crumb of data to be available to the Online...that is Ken's call and if he does so, fine, if he doesn't...that's fine by me, I can deal with it or not locally as i choose. Just like I keep telling you surfeur, your typo corrections are not based REAL data, that is why they are NOT contributable, they corrections in your mind and as such are Local and you are free to do so. If the distributor says color, who are YOU to determine that is a typo, it says color...so be it. I see distributor written Overviews all the time that leaves me wondering about the education level of the author, sometimes the grammar is terrible...but it is what it is So many people try and overthink this stuff and it all so EASY. SKip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hallo-marvin: Quote:
rules say :"The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film." (bolding by me) Then the very next paragraph states: "Create individual profiles for each movie in these Box Sets." Since that's not possible in this situation, I'd argue that this is not technically classified as a "box set" by DVD Profiler terminology. But that's really besides the point and dragging this thread off track. Regardless of if it is or isn't, this is a clear case where dividers are to be used rather than creating a parent profile and linking that to single movie releases that are unrelated to the set of movies that is being contributed. If doesn't really matter if the set is a "box set" or not. The real question was if it should be submitted with dividers or not. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| Registered: May 9, 2008 | | Posts: 467 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree that this should be a single profile using dividers since on a single side of a disc and a number of entries in my collection would support this and it appears to be the only way to submit it to the on=line DB.
This discussion did make me think of one thing. If you read the rules literally if you have a box set that contains multiple DVDs with each DVD having a different movie on each side it seems it should it be entered as:
Parent Box set-> Containing Disc 1: Side A profile + Disc 1: Side B profile + Disc 2: Side A profile + Disc 2: Side B profile
But most I see entered as:
Parent Box set-> Disc 1 with dividers for movies on A/B side + Disc 2 with dividers for movies on A/B side |
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