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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | |  Arnold Ridley [OMB] J. O. C. Orton [Story By]? Val Guest & Marriott Edgar [Writer]? Kenneth Blain [Song Writer]? or is this a Choreography credit (keep Local)  as you can see from the credits there are no spaces between initials and last name should i recreate this using the credited as B. C. Sewell [B.C.Sewell] or just ignore it. | | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
as you can see from the credits there are no spaces between initials and last names should i recreate this using the credited as
B. C. Sewell [B.C.Sewell]
or just ignore it. Were it me i'd parse them normally (that is, ignore it) | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
as you can see from the credits there are no spaces between initials and last names should i recreate this using the credited as
B. C. Sewell [B.C.Sewell]
or just ignore it. I've always thought that that part of the rules was taking things a bit too far so personally I would ignore it, but unfortunately it would be for local only. Quote:
Kenneth Blain [Song Writer]? or is this a Choreography credit (keep Local) I don't think that it's clear enough to say what he did so would opt for a local credit regardless of which way you opt to go. |
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| Registered: October 6, 2008 | | Posts: 1,932 |
| | Posted: | | | | The music credit appears to be for composing the song. Googling the name and the song title gives a handful of hits which verify this interpretation. Here's a compelling one:
http://books.google.com/books?id=nUXMwgOQX5AC&pg=PA195&lpg=PA195&dq=kenneth-blain+"the+seaside+band"&source=web&ots=X4UYEgXd4O&sig=KUgjAxDVqY4hSdaCDLIS3QeSleI&hl=en&ei=KC6XSaP8J4G4tweBlpGdCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result
(Sorry; linky not working for me right now.)
The initial format is just a stylistic choice. I would parse them in the usual way. | | | | Last edited: by CalebAndCo |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote:
Quoting ninehours:
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as you can see from the credits there are no spaces between initials and last names should i recreate this using the credited as
B. C. Sewell [B.C.Sewell]
or just ignore it.
Were it me i'd parse them normally (that is, ignore it) No!! Don't ignore it: per the rules and per Ken's specific instructions here it HAS to be entered as "B. C. Sewell [B.C. Sewell]". | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
No!! Don't ignore it: per the rules and per Ken's specific instructions here it HAS to be entered as "B. C. Sewell [B.C. Sewell]". Actually, you can enter it as 'B.C./ /Sewell' and, once you contribute it, the program will automatically create the 'credited as'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
No!! Don't ignore it: per the rules and per Ken's specific instructions here it HAS to be entered as "B. C. Sewell [B.C. Sewell]". Per your argument wouldn't it be "B. C. Sewell [B.C.Sewell]" with no spaces in the Credited As? Ken's message is not an instruction but an explanation of how the program handles things. I see initials with periods after them and the spaces are implicit. (And as with all things in life there will be exceptions to this guideline as well, but that is my starting point) | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote:
Per your argument wouldn't it be "B. C. Sewell [B.C.Sewell]" with no spaces in the Credited As? Ah, yes, "B. C. Sewell [B.C.Sewell]" then. Quote:
I see initials with periods after them and the spaces are implicit. That is, however, in direct conflict what Ken said. You might feel the spaces are implicit even when you don't see them, but as you can see, the lack or presence of a space results in completely different ways of profiling the credit. So we do differentiate based on just that minor difference. How would this be any different? It all boils down to the bit of the rules that says to "list names exactly as they are in the credits." Exactly, in this case, means: no space on the screen, no space in DVD Profiler (at least not in the "credited as" field). |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,678 |
| | Posted: | | | | If the periods don't count as separators, then logic would dictate that B.C.Sewell is one word and should be parsed B.C.Sewell//
So, the way I see it, it's either B./C./Sewell or B.C.Sewell// and I sure know which one I'd pick.
Now, that's not to say that I'd ignore Ken's directive, but it makes no sense IMHO. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | The Rules tell us to use B./C./Sewell, it is possible that he could be credited either as B./C./Sewell or B.C.Sewell. B. C. Sewell [B.C.Sewell] follows the Rules for handling the name AND tells us exactly how he is credited in THIS film. Very simple.
The problem here is, instead of following both the Rules and the data everybody is trying to interpret one or the other.
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote:
The Rules tell us to use B./C./Sewell, it is possible that he could be credited either as B./C./Sewell or B.C.Sewell. B. C. Sewell [B.C.Sewell] follows the Rules for handling the name AND tells us exactly how he is credited in THIS film. Very simple. Exactly. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
Arnold Ridley [OMB]
"based on the famous play by" is not listed in the rules. Without some clarification or rules change from Invelos it is not contributable. Quote:
J. O. C. Orton [Story By]?
"Scenario" is not listed in the rules. Often "Scenario" is used for "Screenplay" in European film. Without some clarification or rules change from Invelos it is not contributable. Quote:
Val Guest & Marriott Edgar [Writer]?
"Dialogue" is not listed in the rules. Quote:
Kenneth Blain [Song Writer]? or is this a Choreography credit (keep Local)
Musical number xy by" is not listed in the rules Quote:
B. C. Sewell [B.C.Sewell] or just ignore it. It's a stylistic only choice to only a small space after a punctuation mark. Therefore I would ignore it |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Actually, you can enter it as 'B.C./ /Sewell' and, once you contribute it, the program will automatically create the 'credited as'. It would create "B.C. Sewell" as credited as which would be worse than no credited as IMO. If at all you want to add a credited as, it should be "BC.Sewell". | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
No!! Don't ignore it: per the rules and per Ken's specific instructions here it HAS to be entered as "B. C. Sewell [B.C. Sewell]". No credited as "B.C. Sewell" is definitely wrong. The sapce after the B. is as big as the space after the C.! |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
It's a stylistic only choice to only a small space after a punctuation mark. Therefore I would ignore it Again, that is in direct conflict with what Ken said. The way it's displayed on the screen HAS to be preserved in the "credited as" field - that is what the whole "list names exactly as they are in the credits" rule is about. |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Quoting T!M:
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No!! Don't ignore it: per the rules and per Ken's specific instructions here it HAS to be entered as "B. C. Sewell [B.C. Sewell]".
No credited as "B.C. Sewell" is definitely wrong. The sapce after the B. is as big as the space after the C.! I already addressed that minor typo: I meant "B./C./Sewell [B.C.Sewell]", obviously. That is the one and only correct entry. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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